Getting to the conversation step: whats your routine?

[donArjun]

my first ten rejections were easy. No longer fear approaching but the next step "making and holding 5 minute conversations" I have not been as successful at yet , I still need work on this. Rejections were easy and fun , some I didn't even make eye contact and I had a simple routine ( below) that I followed, so I am wondering is there any such routine for conversation:

Any one have a simple routine for conversation that you follow ? How can you tell you are doing it right ?


heres how a few went:

hb7 I see good eye contact, entrance to the club.

me: you look hot, can I get your phone number?
hb7: (didn't hear me clearly) so I repeated.
hb7: I am from <out of state>... (I didn't continue)

hb7.5 good eye contact, different club.

me:whats up ladies. have you been here before ?
hb7.5 twice
me: so what do you think ?
hb7.5 its nice or okay.
me: so where you from ?
hb.75 <some town> ( I started to feel like an interviewer, didn't continue argh!!!)

hb 8 shoots IOI parking lot
me: you look hot, can I get your phone number?
hb 8 : thanks ... but I have a boyfriend, and then says Sorry to me in an apolgetic voice

This last one pretty much repeats for 3-4 girls, then I had these where I got NO EYE CONTACT, but I am/was able to sense and see it ahead of time .

hb10 no eye contact, or little looking away.
me: can I ask you a question ?
hb10: yup.
me: you look hot, can I get your phone number?
hb10: no

so basically, how can I succeed with conversation ? Just try to see if you can sync with her ?
Any suggestions on going to the next step ... I would like to try this while I still hot from approaches...

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

What do you mean by "no eye contact"? Someone I know would say that you shouldn't approach women that aren't 'feeling' you, but the game can be played many ways.

Why not always establish eye contact, continue to introduced yourself, but don't automatically go for the number. I would even suggest that you should only go for the number if she -clicks- with you.

The rest is up to you, because I can't tell you how to have a conversation that is up to you. The only thing I can tell you is to get into her world and build from there...

Good luck.


And forget all that--- "your hot" shyt...

 

[CORVETTE06]

dont say 'u look hot ' before u ask for her number..thats the gayest thing i ever heard in my ****ing life

 

[Driven2Succeed]

donarjun,

yea i would totally forget the "u look hott" spiel.. mostly because if she really is a 7.5 or 10 then shes heard it many times.. THAT NIGHT..

u gotta be more original and if shes into u then all that sh1t basically doesn't really matter. like, i dunno man, i really dont like club pick ups, but thats probably because i dont club very frequently..

just be urself.. i know it sounds dumb but as long as uv been reading all the DJ techniques and u are applying them to ur everyday life, being urself will work wonders.

there are so many factors that can change a girls attitude and her receptiveness to a "come on".. if shes happy and feelin good that good.. if u can tell shes got the "fvck off" sign up then ur gonna have to work harder or just move on to another..

bottom line is this.. just be urself and let it flow naturally.. not everyone is gonna like u.. who cares!!!

 

[Luke Skywalker]

Hey, I have to commend you on one thing - you dont have contact-close phobia - you are asking everyone for their number with that line. I love that.
You are cool dude. I've gotta try that myself. I cant bring myself to asking a girl for their number, even in a pick-up line like you are using.

"You look hot, what's your number babe?"

This is a contact-close rejection formula - I love this man, I'm going to try it on a few cashiers or anyone something - excellent. Varients:

"I like you, write your number down?"

"You are cool, what's your number?"

[generic compliment], number request -

"Hey, that's a nice shirt?"
Thanks
(smile) Your number please. (pen and card held out infront)

"There is something I noticed about you?"
What?
XYZ, hey, I have to go, can I have your number?, or <pause, look like thinking> "I forgot, but can I have your number"

Now this is clicking - number-close rejection formula, excellent, I've gotta try this, I will definately give this a go."