Getting the number: don't ASK, don't TELL... ALLOW!

[Krassus]

There are many different methods of getting a girl's number, and while they all work (yes, even saying "can i have your number?") some are just better than others.

This is because certain methods convey particular frames of thought that are benefitial to the seductionist's cause. In other words, they imply that the seductionist is assuming certain things.

Asking for the number implies that you assume you have to ask, which means you also assume there is a possibility of getting denied. This is why for as long as i can remember, aspiring seducitonists have been told to tell instead of asking.

Telling, i.e. "give me your number and i'll give you a call sometime," implies that you're assuming that you will receive what you're asking for. But in the end, you're still asking.

The first method is commonly used by AFCs, the second by aspiring PUAs, but there is also a third, which up until now was reserved for either master seductionists or those clever enough to figure it out.

The method is this: instead of asking, instead of telling, simply allow. Assume the number is yours, create an opportunity for her to give it to you and allow her to do so. How? Simple:

SCENARIO 1: Listen, i gotta run. I enjoyed talking to you, i'll call you sometime. *hand over your cell phone so that she can punch in her number*

SCENARIO 2: Alright, i gotta go, but i'll give you a ring sometime. Do you have a pen? *then give her a piece of paper to write the number on*

You get the idea. The master seductionists rarely ever actually verbalize the request for a number. Instead, they give the girl an opportunity because they assume she'll take it, which she does.

 

[DJDamage]

If she likes you , as long as you ask for her number confidently you will be fine.

A simple " Whats your number?!" without asking for it but rather anticipating for it is just as good. You are already confident enough to know and covey it, that she will give it to you.

Your goal is not to get her number as much as it is to get the date. If you hand her your phone after a bad rapport, she might dial her number but after you call she will make up excuses not to go with you.

First impressions count for alot. If you don't have strong rapport while talking to her in person, don't expect to increase it while talking on the phone.

I didn't like Scenario 1 . You are better off dialing the number yourself not giving it to her.

Scenario 2. Its best not to ask her for a pen or paper unless she offers it. Its your responsibilty to have things ready if you want something. It works good in a Bar/Club where you ask the Bartender for it instead of her. Shows that you can get things done.

 

[PImp]

i usally use "do you have a number i could contact you at???" cause if shes says no she'll look dumb and you can be like "you don't have a home phone or a cell phone???, whoa i thought this was a new century maybe i was wrong" or even "you know when i saw you kinda look like a old fashioned girl but i didn't think it was 1920's old fashioned"

 

[sexual_intellectual]

Originally posted by Krassus
Telling, i.e. "give me your number and i'll give you a call sometime," implies that you're assuming that you will receive what you're asking for. But in the end, you're still asking.

Thats very true.

Originally posted by Krassus
SCENARIO 1: Listen, i gotta run. I enjoyed talking to you, i'll call you sometime. *hand over your cell phone so that she can punch in her number*

SCENARIO 2: Alright, i gotta go, but i'll give you a ring sometime. Do you have a pen? *then give her a piece of paper to write the number on*

IMO thats still asking - you have taken the initiative, and she can still say no.

For it to be allowing her to give you the number, the initiative must have been hers, and you must have had the option to decline it. Thats not a good idea!

I personally dislike overly assertive ways of asking for the number IMO they can actually show a lack of confidence i.e. you're so scared of rejection, you ask for the number in a way that minimses the risk that she'll devastate you by saying no.

For me, the number is a test for her - if she doesn't give it up nice and easy, I go after the other pretty ladies on my horizon!

 

[Lachdaunan]

A funny story about this topic... One time I was with this girl and she needed to call her house because we were returning from a movie together. Her phone battery was out of charge so she asked to use mine. After she called, she actually programmed her number into my phone! I looked at her and smirked saying, "Damn, that was the easiest number I've ever gotten." She just giggled and layed her head on my shoulder.

 

[check_mate_kid_uk]

DJDamage is right about how with in reason it does not matter how you ask as long as she likes you.

Krassus this is a great post you have a great idea, i jave already thought of this but i think this is a great post. The one thing i must say is the example is not the kind of thing in invisioned.

I would imagine somthing more like "its been great talking to you, why done you give me your number so we cary this on latter"

I must say that in genral this is just a great thing you sumurised Krassus. The AFC will ask, the PUA (ie alpha male that has to little respect for women) will demand it, you dont want to do either of these. The DJ will suggest things its gives an aura of equality, you respect her but you have dignity and self respect.