"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Getting the girl who is already taken

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So theres this girl I've been introduced to through a mutal friend, she's hard to figure out which is one of the main factors leading to this attraction. We have a lot in common and both our longest relationships have been 3 months long so we share the same outlook in terms of getting bored easily with bf/gfs.

Anyway she's with this guy whos an absolute loser from how she describes him, I mean beyond AFC. She calls his behaviour "emo"

She got her friend to chat me up and see how "easy" I was the other day, I passed the ***** test and told her she'd have to work harder for some of this. Then she got her friend to check my "availability"

I want to pursue this.. but I have a gut feeling that she might dissapoint me if I go through the trouble of breaking them up. Shes not happy in the relationship if its not obvious btw

What are your thoughts?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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In the past 24 hours i have seen three threads ask basicly the same question. What is wrong with you people.

Ninja out
 

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I dont live on this message board and dont really care about the other threads. I posted this because I thought there may be guys out there who have been in similar situations before that could offer advice

But it looks like I'm alone on this one..
 

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Well guess what there is guys out there in simmilar situations. Thats why you should try doing a search instead of asking a question that gets aske 3 or 4 times a day.

Ninja out
 

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Who the **** made you forum police, pumpkin?

I've read the other threads and my situation is different, you cant give universal advice on a topic and expect it to work for everyone

But fukcit asking for advice here is worse than asking a female
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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There was a post that got a few replies its still here. About girlfriend stealing and how the girl is happy in the relationship. Almost exactly like your situation.

Ninja out
 

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What? the girl is NOT happy in my situation

I'm just hesitent because if she's into me while she's still with this loser, it may mean she's the type of girl who will cheat in the future
 

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Stop farting around, talking to her friends and about past relationships and just ask her out.
That will eliminate all the fluff you are experiencing.

Never ever ever ever listen to what they say - go by what they do - she may say her BF is blah blah but he is the one fvcking her 1 hour after talking to you.
 
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