"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Getting Texts from an HB: What to do now?

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So I've been putting in the time with this HB 8.5 from work. She started with the IOI's - basic stuff, long eye contact, touching. Then it went to flirting. Then I knew I had something one day: she comes into cab office (I'm a taxi driver) and asks me how my night went. I say "it went okay, could have been better I guess." She smiles and goes "Aww too bad. I bet I can make it better." She give me her number since she was getting off of work. So I call her and she doesn't pick up. So the texting begins:

Me:

I guess we'll meet up some other time.

Her:

Meet up to do what? hehe

Me:

lol. You just let me know what you want.

Her:

Ouch. I thought it was obvious

WTF??? I had called her and then she plays these games. I want to bone this chick until she cries. What should I do, bros?
WTF
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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I may be new here, but from what I've read, "lol. You just let me know what you want. " was like thee worst thing to say to her. You're giving her the control and that's a huge turnoff for her.

You should have said something like "Uh, we'll meet up and I'll bang your brains out, duh." Seems like you had all the green lights, and you were already flirting. If you get a reaction like "WHAT?!" or no reply (I wait at least 30 minutes) then you can say something like "Relax, I was just joking, you don't have to be wound up so tight. I figured we would just <insert something YOU want to do here>. I was thinking <place> on <day> at <time>."

I have learned from my own experience to use "lol" and "haha" sparingly, it just makes people seem clingy when they overuse it I guess.

I have learned from this message board NEVER to ask a girl what she wants to do, or when she's free, or tell her to "let me know" anything. You're the one that knows it all, and you're the one thats in control.
 
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reasonpolice said:
I may be new here, but from what I've read, "lol. You just let me know what you want. " was like thee worst thing to say to her. You're giving her the control and that's a huge turnoff for her.

You should have said something like "Uh, we'll meet up and I'll bang your brains out, duh." Seems like you had all the green lights, and you were already flirting. If you get a reaction like "WHAT?!" or no reply (I wait at least 30 minutes) then you can say something like "Relax, I was just joking, you don't have to be wound up so tight. I figured we would just <insert something YOU want to do here>. I was thinking <place> on <day> at <time>."

I have learned from my own experience to use "lol" and "haha" sparingly, it just makes people seem clingy when they overuse it I guess.

I have learned from this message board NEVER to ask a girl what she wants to do, or when she's free, or tell her to "let me know" anything. You're the one that knows it all, and you're the one thats in control.
Not bad, bro. So my situation is screwed? Time to move on?
 

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Eh not necessarily. It's probably in your best interests to just go NC. But, if you bump into her again, or she texts you back in a week, you might have a second chance. You never know!
 

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First, she's obviously not comfortable saying she wants your ****! But she'll text it to you. So I would just play the text game with her for awhile (a few days), you can lay all the ground work of to fvck her over text.

I would have said something like

Her: Meet up to do what?
Me: Hmmm it would involve a lot of whip cream and chocolate!! haha

then she would have said something

Me: Calm down girly I like to have a cup of hot chocolate now and then and Ilove whip cream....geeze get your mind out of the gutter.

Then you just keep going from there and your establishing that your a funny guy.

I haven't met a chick that doesn't like to battle wits with the sexual innuendo's and you just keep escalating, and you have to tell her that she's thinking about you naked, I never say I'm thinking about them naked, again with the control thing!! haha
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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This chick seems very upfront and flirty in her texts. Which is usually the sign of an attention wh0r3. The type of girl that is very flirtatious and sexual in her communications with you but is only doing it for the feeling of being desired, not for anything beyond talking on the phone.
Like reasonpolice said, you've put the ball on her side, which makes you her little puppy and has ruined your chances even more.
 
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r0cky said:
This chick seems very upfront and flirty in her texts. Which is usually the sign of an attention *****. The type of girl that is very flirtatious and sexual in her communications with you but is only doing it for the feeling of being desired, not for anything beyond talking on the phone.
Like reasonpolice said, you've put the ball on her side, which makes you her little puppy and has ruined your chances even more.
Then screw it, I'm moving on.
 

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You're going to quit??? After just a few text exchanges?? Come on gimme an f'n break. She wants you to bang her, she made that obvious. How much innuendo do you need? And now you're going to pass it up?

Set up a definite plan, "I got some time on xxxx, lets meet up at yyy for a drink." or "I got this cool place to go check out, lets meet..." keep control by setting the time/place/activity. Then get some kino going, and budda-bang.... doesn't get simpler than this one. And given how up-front she's being you could probably get some good action almost anywhere.... my favorite :)

TC
 

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Don't overreact. While your response was not great, it hardly ends your chances. If that's the only mistake you make and you play things properly from here on, you're still going to get laid.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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WTF? Stop the texting games. Call her again. If she doesn't answer, do nothing. If she calls back, tell her to come out to meet you. If she doesn't call and instead texts you, then you reply with only "call me." If she still doesn't call or gives you any giggly nonsense about "why should i call" then just don't reply. She then either calls or loses out.

She plays by your rules or you don't play at all.
 
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mrRuckus said:
WTF? Stop the texting games. Call her again. If she doesn't answer, do nothing. If she calls back, tell her to come out to meet you. If she doesn't call and instead texts you, then you reply with only "call me." If she still doesn't call or gives you any giggly nonsense about "why should i call" then just don't reply. She then either calls or loses out.

She plays by your rules or you don't play at all.

You don't get it.
 

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Piano Master, run out & get her a xmas gift. perfume or bath oils gift pack. Then put it in her "in basket" or something... write "from a secret admirer". When she confronts you, smile confidently and say "its nothing, don't get a big head". She will be gushing.
 

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No need for this complicated bull****. Text/Call her and meetup. Something as simple as telling her a place and time would probably work in this situation. She already likes you, there's no reason to overgame
 

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I don't understand why all this time is killed on texting/IMing and plans on how to do it (flirting? building interest?) more than getting a number/date.

You should realize that HBs have several guys texting a day and then there's one guy who's knocking on her door to get some.

EXAMPLE: When she stops replying mid-flirt late in the evening, she didn't doze off, or get mad, she's getting it on. When she replies 3 hours later after you've sent a couple "you still there?", she didn't "took a nap, sorry". The dude left and went home to make fun of his roommate who's texting/IMing some other girl who had of those famous late night narcoleptic attacks. The "took a nap, sorry" type stuff is so the guy will keep on texting her...like for the next time she's waiting to actually be touching a man in person.

These girls are often texting for something to pass time so they won't be staring at the door for their Romeos to get there or call them. It's a distraction and attention.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Joe Stud said:
well Piano? did you blow it? update??
I followed your advice, man. I went out and got her a gift basket of scented candles and massage oils and played it off all cool. Long story short, she's coming over this weekend to hang out. I told her to bring the massage oils. :rockon: :rockon:
 

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The Piano Master said:
I followed your advice, man. I went out and got her a gift basket of scented candles and massage oils and played it off all cool. Long story short, she's coming over this weekend to hang out. I told her to bring the massage oils. :rockon: :rockon:

um i smell a flake...lol:down: :down: :down:
 
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um i smell a flake...lol:down: :down: :down:
I think you're on to something, DonGorgon. Earlier today I texted her if saturday or sunday was better and she replied with this:

HER:

Um, actually maybe sometime next week. New years and all, you know?

ME:

No big deal. Hopefully one of the other girls I gave massage oils to comes over now.

I'm hoping that the neg-hits bring her back around. Seriously though, I was prepping to f'uck her until she couldn't walk. This sucks. :cry:
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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