"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Getting Stood Up On V-day and Wanting To Make Her Feel Like ****

wutang180

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I know some of you guys missed me. I started coming to this site during the good old days. I believe it was 1997 and really haven't been back since 2001.

Well, I started dating this one girl back in December in lawschool. Around our 3rd date, we expressed our feelings for eachother. Our feelings were mutual. On our 4th date was the last time that we ever saw eachother. We went out to this coffee shop for about 1hr and that was it.

We were suppose to go out on V-day on the 14th of February. I bought her a plush teddy bear, Cards, Candy, and wrote her a poem. But she canceled on me on the 13th and said that she had an assignment due on the 15th for law school. At First, I could understand why she might of canceled because sometimes law school can hinder one's social life. However, I started getting suspicious when she didn't return my phone call on the 14th (V-day) until the day after Valentine's Day. I was also suspicious because she was acting strange. I've been only speaking on the phone to her maybe once a week at the most after this incident. However, she e-mailed today and said that she would like to have lunch with me very soon so that we could talk. I haven't given this girl her V-day gift yet. But I feel like giving her her gift so she can know what she missed out on and how much of a jerk she was to me on V-day. I want to tell her "here is the gifts that I got you for the V-day..It was suppose to be a special day but you canceled on me.. If you want it... take it... if you don't, throw it in the trash." What do you guys think? Is this a good Idea?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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ahh to be stood up on V-Day... (see the thread.. LAST MINUTE VALENTINES...NEED ADVICE!!)
 

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Second that motion

The alternative?

Send those items to me

Then Pin this statement to the wall

Around our 3rd date, we expressed our feelings for eachother
While looking at it, put your finger in the wall socket


Kaine
 

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its aparent you have been out the game for quite some time. You had only been on 3 dates, sure it could have been a fun day, but let me tell you that it wasn't going to be special. its been weeks since valentines, your obviously caught up on this chick and definately have oneitis. I am not trying to shoot your hopes down, but I wouldn't be suprised that when you meet with her for lunch she tells you that she just wants to be friends. obviously i could be wrong because i don't know a lot about your situation, i say cancel on her for lunch and tell her you have to many things you need to take care of. Sorry there, thats just how it is.

If a chick cancels on you and doesn't offer an alternative (because she really wants to see you) then you should probably make it a point not get caught up on her.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Good to see you back...
Anyways maybe you shared your feelings with eachother a bit early?
And you may have gone a bit overboard on the gifts for V-Day. Just give her two of those...possibly the teddy bear and card.
Good luck
 

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First of all, take all that 5hit back to the store (if you can) and get your money back. If not, eat the damn candy and save the teddy bear for next year.

Second, there's something seriously fvcking wrong here. Women normally go gaga over Valentine's day (as well as any other holiday). They're the ones who get all fvcking miserable if they don't have anyone to spend it with. I have a feeling there's another guy in the picture.

Don't give her a damn thing. Why does she deserve her Valentine's gifts if she dumped out on you? Read my sig...
 

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Originally posted by b's nuts
its aparent you have been out the game for quite some time. You had only been on 3 dates, sure it could have been a fun day, but let me tell you that it wasn't going to be special. its been weeks since valentines, your obviously caught up on this chick and definately have oneitis. I am not trying to shoot your hopes down, but I wouldn't be suprised that when you meet with her for lunch she tells you that she just wants to be friends. obviously i could be wrong because i don't know a lot about your situation, i say cancel on her for lunch and tell her you have to many things you need to take care of. Sorry there, thats just how it is.

If a chick cancels on you and doesn't offer an alternative (because she really wants to see you) then you should probably make it a point not get caught up on her.
Yeah... I have been out of the game for a while. So, coming back is very hard. I can't believe that she would disrespect me like the way that she did. I just want to make her feel ashame for doing what she did. I know this is the type of girl that I shouldn't even think about dating, especially when I haven't seen her in several weeks. When I meet her again, I'm going to act indifferent and very aloof to her feelings.
 

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Originally posted by Desdinova
First of all, take all that 5hit back to the store (if you can) and get your money back. If not, eat the damn candy and save the teddy bear for next year.

Second, there's something seriously fvcking wrong here. Women normally go gaga over Valentine's day (as well as any other holiday). They're the ones who get all fvcking miserable if they don't have anyone to spend it with. I have a feeling there's another guy in the picture.

Don't give her a damn thing. Why does she deserve her Valentine's gifts if she dumped out on you? Read my sig...
Deep down inside.... I know you are right. There has to be some other dude in the picture. I kept telling myself that when she didn't call me on V-day. I don't understand her. I've asked her if she was dating someone else when we started seeing eachother and she said " no". But I have a strange feeling that an old boyfriend might of called her and rekindled some repressed feelings. Thanks for the advice.
 

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So she stood you up on valentines day? You should stand her up in the game of life by not talking to her again. Return the stuff and if she calls tell her that her behavior is unacceptable and tell her god speed as you hang up on her cheating a$$. Cheaters, I hate em with a passion.

But about being all about her after 3 times, it seems as though you got some ring rust to shake off. Read the bible and immerse for 20 mins a day youll be back in the game like it was going out of style.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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thanks for the advice
 

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Be the bigger man and move on. Why waste time on someone that doesn't appreciate you?
 

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Originally posted by Kaine
Second that motion

The alternative?

Send those items to me

Then Pin this statement to the wall



While looking at it, put your finger in the wall socket


Kaine
i seriously laughed my ass off at this. great post:D
 

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Originally posted by wutang180
Deep down inside.... I know you are right. There has to be some other dude in the picture. I kept telling myself that when she didn't call me on V-day. I don't understand her. I've asked her if she was dating someone else when we started seeing eachother and she said " no". But I have a strange feeling that an old boyfriend might of called her and rekindled some repressed feelings. Thanks for the advice.
Dood...whats up with your insecurity getting the better of you? Its one thing not wanting to be played...nobody wants to get played. But, the stuff you are saying goes beyond getting played.

You're insecure bro.

Why does it matter DEEP inside there HAS TO BE another guy? Give the chick the benefit of the doubt. She cancelled on you. Big whoop. You guys are in Law School. Law School gets busy.

Since she didnt counter offer immediately..then you have a right to be upset. But, f*ck the pissy attitude bro. YOU sound more like a WOMAN because it was Vday and she stood up your cards, ooems, teddy bears....SHEESH..AFC bro for a girl you weren't even really dating...and if you're gonna tell me you NEVER had sex with her and bought her all these things, then bro, NEVER EVER let her know you bought those things...you'll come out like a lil chump.

Look at it like this..if she was with another guy...do you really think she'll care that you bought her flowers, and candy and sh*t.....you give that stuff to her..and it will just reinforce to her that she can have YOU at anytime SHE FEELS LIKE IT..

Don't go out like an AFC...Next this chick bro..
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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What do you gain from revenge? 1 minute of bliss?

What do you lose? Everything.
 

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She's not your girl if you've only dated her 3 times...
 
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