"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Getting some this weekend...

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I just took care of business. I gave blockbuster girl a MNIN 2 hour special tonight. I'll have to give the details later since she's still around. I don't want to contribute to that "busted on sosuave" thread.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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But it's impossible to get results off a cold approach!

lol
 
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wolf116 said:
But it's impossible to get results off a cold approach!

lol

pretty amazing... it took 15 minutes out of my day for this to happen.. I could have easily not approached at all.
 
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DrD77 said:
100 bucks says you won't get laid on saturday night.
I guess I owe you a hundred. I didn't get laid until Sunday night. Actually it was Monday morning. She is a screamer... I was worried the neighbors would call the police.
 
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I just went to the room and banged her again close to an hour....This girl is a freak this is great!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Daddy The Pimp said:
Wrong . Dont say if you havent tried about at least 20 times .

Instead , prepare some openers , go out and approach . Youll be surprised :D .
It was a joke! notice the lol
 

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I appreciate the play by play commentary with her in the other room.
 
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persistent exaction said:
I appreciate the play by play commentary with her in the other room.
It was a risky move, I was afraid she would come in and see me posting about the night on sosuave.

That wouldn't have been good.
 

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awesome job dude

and I got the same attitude as you about texting. it doesn't fvckin matter
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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ready123 said:
awesome job dude

and I got the same attitude as you about texting. it doesn't fvckin matter
I had a date scheduled with another girl Sunday.. she asked ME out. Then the day of the date, she flaked on me saying an "emergency" came up.

So, I had blockbuster girl on the radar (plate spinning baby!) and got her to hang out instead and I'm happy it turned out this way.

Proof plate spinning is the way to go. Now the girl who flaked on me Sunday is texting me asking how my weekend is. I should tell her how my night was since she flaked on me.
 

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ready123 said:
awesome job dude

and I got the same attitude as you about texting. it doesn't fvckin matter
I actually use texting to raise IL. For example, a chick texts me and I won't respond for five or six hours. If it's unimportant, sometimes I don't respond at all.

It's a good way to show a chick that you have other things going on in your life.

I got flaked on last week through a text. A girl was supposed to come out with me for some drinks, but she sent a text about six hours before saying she had to stay home and study for her grad school exams. I didn't respond, and sure enough the next day I got an e-mail from her. She was frantically wondering if I had gotten the text or if I was mad at her about not being able to come out with me. I just said that I forgot to respond, and that her canceling wasn't a big deal because I had other plans anyway.

I think the key with text messages is to not overuse them or rely on them too much. It's also good not to respond immediately.
 
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MikeYikes122 said:
I actually use texting to raise IL. For example, a chick texts me and I won't respond for five or six hours. If it's unimportant, sometimes I don't respond at all.

It's a good way to show a chick that you have other things going on in your life.

I got flaked on last week through a text. A girl was supposed to come out with me for some drinks, but she sent a text about six hours before saying she had to stay home and study for her grad school exams. I didn't respond, and sure enough the next day I got an e-mail from her. She was frantically wondering if I had gotten the text or if I was mad at her about not being able to come out with me. I just said that I forgot to respond, and that her canceling wasn't a big deal because I had other plans anyway.

I think the key with text messages is to not overuse them or rely on them too much. It's also good not to respond immediately.

Not a bad idea Mike! I always find myself responding to their text messages in under 30 minutes. This is a mistake.

Starting now, I am not going to reply to any text message before at least 6 hours. In fact, I am going to try waiting a few days and see if she is interested enough to call.

Also, I am trying to never be the one initiating the texts. Except for special circumstances. Never just text a girl because you are bored and crave her attention.
 

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another cool thing you can do with texting that you can't really do w/ regular phone convo is create intrigue

text the girl something open-ended like "I just saw something that reminded me of you"

then watch her IL spike
 
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She was a FREAK! Felt like I was in a porno movie she was screaming so loud.

So she texted me Sunday night and I replied "come over later".. she came over around midnight then I took her to a place to get some food and have a couple drinks.

We came back and started up a movie. We got about 10 minutes in and making out and we went to the bedroom and the rest is history.

The funny thing is now she is acting distant. She is probably afraid I will go AFC on her. We really have nothing in common, this is a bang and chuck unless she just wants to be FB's.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Some of this sounds like B.S to me. Its not congruent.

Why would you bother posting on here when you're fuvking an amazing girl? Its the last thing you'd think about.

It seems your playing the armchair game and/or living out your fantasy.
 
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James45 said:
Some of this sounds like B.S to me. Its not congruent.

Why would you bother posting on here when you're fuvking an amazing girl? Its the last thing you'd think about.

It seems your playing the armchair game and/or living out your fantasy.
Hey noob, I don't make stuff up and most people around here know this.

And hell yeah I will post on here after doing the deed. She was passed out in my bed. I work nights so I can never sleep normal hours.

So, I got my 6 pack in, and my bragging on sosuave done, and then went back and gave her 2 more rounds.
 
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It's time for a new weekend!

Who's getting some this weekend?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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