"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Getting numbers is easy but help me with the rest

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I'm in my mid 20s and have never had problems getting girls that I'm into. I've had a few serious relationships and am coming off a really chaotic and disastrous break up (I was dumped and she is a psycho). So I stumbled across this site and it changed my entire game. Been over a month since the break up and I never have been one to pick up randoms in every day situations but have been since the break up. Cafes, clubs, social functions, work trips etc have all been used as opportunities to meet girls.

I have gotten a dozen numbers in the past month of attractive girls and they have all been so receptive and keen when I initiate conversation and then ask for the number. What has happened then is flaking, strange insecure girls, requests of Facebook adds before dates etc. I have followed basic rules such as not calling for at least a few days after getting the number and keeping conversations relatively short and with a purpose and plan in mind as to the proposed date.

I got three numbers this weekend and I really want to get some action off at least one because I'll get put off if I don't lol. They are all such different types of fish... One is in her 30s, another is 18 and the other is my age. Chick in her 30s is a single mom, 18 year old is a waitress and the one my age is a uni student. Can y'all give me some tips and tricks and things to avoid? I will report back at the end of the wake as to what happens.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Try to instead of getting numbers to ask them out, realizing that you are already out. Build rapport, kino, have fun together, kiss close. Then get digits.
 

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backseatjuan said:
Try to instead of getting numbers to ask them out, realizing that you are already out. Build rapport, kino, have fun together, kiss close. Then get digits.
Haha when I said cafe I was talking about the waitresses lol. Only been in a couple of instances where I got the girl's number 'out' but both were when I was leaving the club and noticed them and the other one I again, wasn't in a position to hang out for the night.

I guess this could raise another topic in itself. Skills to have when scoring dates with workers at cafes, restaurants, clubs and other shops such as retail stores and gyms.

But to make it clearer, in situations where you can only really build rapport for a little while and then get the number, how do I build the maximum chance to score dates?
 
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