"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Getting numbers in HS

TheEnergizer

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So I found this site over the summer (well for the 2nd time, the first time was a while ago and i didnt stay for very long) and i've read quite a bit of material here and have been having lots of success compared to last year for the first 3 weeks of school. I've been approaching new people quite a bit, much better at holding convos (though still not great at it) and am more confident, positive, happy, funny, outgoing etc. I'm a freshman btw.

How do you get a girls number in HS? i was extremely shy in the past especially around girls so i've never gotten a girl's number. still haven't. kinda sad because a lot of other guys by now have lots of numbers and constantly text and talk about texting and stuff like that. so how do I get some chicks on my contacts list? i'm completely clueless, ask them out, or just ask at a certain time (when?). do you have to get to know them first or just get it the first time you meet the gal, after some conversation, whether or not she seems interested? (i guess since its high school there isnt really anybody you wont see again unlike when you're on the street or something, so no missed chances really) I already know a lot of people just because of this site and ya know, improving my social skills. lots of potential numbers guys.

so i was talking to a friend of mine who i knew last year he said he's pulled about 14 numbers already! (i forget exactly how many he said, but it was pretty good). now theres a dj. i asked him how he did it..

me: how do you do it?
him: what get their number? just ask.
me: don't you have to talk to them a little first?
him: if you want.

lol i was surprised, i thought you had to know the girl for a while and have multiple convos with her and wait for signs of interest, etc. before asking for a number. well that sure got me thinking. now i'm really confused though, so what do you guys think?
and there are other guys that have already got girls numbers they only just met this year, guys that were just kinda average joes last year. whats their secret/formula?

any tips would be nice, lines, examples, whatever.
also, what if she says why? or do they ever ask why?

this is my first post, hello sosuave community! :D
 
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Really just ask. Whenever you want. If you don't feel comfortable at first, say it's so you can call her to go do blablabla with some other people or so you can keep in touch over the weekend, or something. In HS, numbers aren't a big deal to have, anyone that's friends usually has them.

Reminds me that I lost my cell phone and gotta get a new one. There's also those facebook groups with like "i lost my phone need #s", but i think it would be kinda wierd to get a persons # without them knowing it.

Also don't listen to all that stuff about IOIs and timelines and whatever, it has grains of truth, but take it with a large amount of salt. High school is your playground, and very easy to get around in if you can hold a conversation. Do what you want!
 

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so it really is no biggie. thanks. :up: i guess i'm just afraid she won't give it to me and i'll look really stupid. oh well, who cares what everyone else thinks, right? i'll reply to this thread once i get my first # hopefully. Wish me luck guys!
 

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Dude I'm in practically the same boat as you except I'm a Junior sadly. Good luck to ya. I'll try my luck on Monday and see where it gets me.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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TheEnergizer

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so its settled then, on monday no holding back! even if i don't get one, my goal is to at least ask on monday. Good luck guys!
 

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Yeah good luck. A friend told me recently that being rejected is almost like jumping into a cold pool for the first time. After overcoming the initial shock, your body becomes used to it and then you're virtually unaffected by the cold. So the more times you are rejected, the less it means to you and the faster you're able to move along. Though in his case, he overcame his fear of rejection by getting rid of any shame he had.
 

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Well look man, I just started college, so I've been through ALL that High School stuff before and let me tell you, getting numbers isn't that hard. I think it's basically just about getting a good GENUINE vibe with a girl and getting her comfortable enough with you to hang out sometime. Generally it's better to tell her to put her number in your phone, then to ask. Asking shows insecurity and she's more likely to give the number if you just tell her.

But yeah, f*ck lines, C+F and all that crap. In my experience it's just about having a good solid interaction with the girl. Need a line lol "Hi, what's your name?", go up to her with that and just see where it goes from there. Don't worry so much about what to say, but just interact with her. And yeah, that's all getting a numbers about, getting a good enough vibe with a girl to the point where she'll want to hang out again.

But yeah, if anything just focus on going for the close. If she says no, it's no big deal. Just practice going for the close. And don't worry so much about getting the number... I didn't do a successful number close until well into my SENIOR year. Yes, my senior year and mostly the only thing holding me back was I was afraid to actually go for the close. Also remember that, numbers don't mean much because girls will flake. But you should still call them though lol, don't be a p*ssy like me and be afraid to actually call the numbers once you get them... that's sort of my problem now.
 

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Okay yeah, I know I was supposed to do this on Monday, but I did it today. Well I got a good outcome, I actually got the girl's number. It was surprisingly easy though. I just asked right before I went off to my next period at the end of our short conversation (transition between Advisement and our next period). Instead of doing the whole note thing, which I thought was too troublesome, I approached her after the period was over outside the classroom. There's also another good thing that's coming from this in my opinion.

The girl is Japanese, I'm learning Japanese, which I told her. I told her I know how to speak a little and she started to look really interested and happy. Then I told her I don't really know how to read it though, which is true, and she agreed to teach me how. Alright where said friendship/relationship goes from there, I've got no clue. Heck I don't even know if I should call her today.

Alright that's how my day went. Coof1re and TheEnergizer, any luck with your endeavors?
 

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i didnt read any of this. BUT. i have the best number close story ever.

i was at this like get to know you thing for this group im in and we had to write one interview question on a card, and give it to a person we didn't know and talk about their answer.

being the goofball i am, i wrote on one side "will you give me your phone number?" and on the back i wrote "why not?!" just to get a laugh. as we're all sitting there waiting for the exercise to start, i scope out the hottest chick in the room bout a 7.5-8 and decided i was gonna give her the card.

i walked up and i was like "hey im (JJ) and...." i handed her the card. she was like "really?!"

i was like "yea" with a smile and some strong eye contact. so she gave it to me. i felt like a bad ass the rest the night. lol

but im also tall, handsome, and a senior. so it coulda had nothing to do with my cleverness of writing it on a card. lol
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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TheEnergizer

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well i finally got one this wednesday october 1st yay! took a month lol but hey i was still adjusting over the past month. at least i came back to this thread to report the accomplishment of my goal :). thanks to everyone for all the help.
 
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