Why "Whatever You Want" Keeps You Single

She says the movie looks dumb; you suddenly agree. She tests you with a little attitude; you apologize for nothing.

You think you're being easy to get along with. She reads something else entirely: a man with no edges. Nothing to hold on to. No friction, no tension, no reason to wonder what he really thinks.

The "22 Rules" taught me to push back — playfully, calmly, without needing her approval. Strange things happened after that.

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Getting laid at college isn't as easy as I thought it would be...

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I had a friend with benefits back home, but here I can barely get a makeout. I don't really get it.

I have very good cold approach skills, a cool group of close friends who always find out about the fun parties and make even the most boring nights fun, and I would consider myself very physically attractive and confident.

But when I number close these girls and offer them to come hang out, I either get a flake or an apology for not texting me back the next day. And it just doesn't make sense...virgins lose their virginity in college and I've only made out with one girl in the 2 weeks since I got here.

Maybe I'm being too aggressive and skipping rapport but I have a floormate that is a very attractive guy, although not nearly as outgoing and only has a small social circle...yeah well he f***ed this really hot girl the first time she came to hang out with him and his friends.

Somebody let me know what I'm doing wrong. Aggressive and confident doesn't seem to be working at the moment.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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What is your approach?

You must remember that females are always on the lookout for that bigger better deal. And the lineup of options that women have doesn't work on a first-come-first-serve basis. It works by most-desirable-option.

Have you tried the jerk approach? And I hope you don't put these women on pedestals. :nono:

Judge nismo needs more info to make a ruling. I'm willing to give you a continuation until the end of today.
 

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nismo-4 said:
What is your approach?

You must remember that females are always on the lookout for that bigger better deal. And the lineup of options that women have doesn't work on a first-come-first-serve basis. It works by most-desirable-option.

Have you tried the jerk approach? And I hope you don't put these women on pedestals. :nono:

Judge nismo needs more info to make a ruling. I'm willing to give you a continuation until the end of today.
What I'm generally doing is playing the numbers game. I approach a girl, ask her her name, shake her hand, introduce myself, and bring up an ice breaker...usually something about my weird roommate or one of my really tall friends. After that I usually give a false time constraint and either offer them my number or ask for theirs, whichever is more convenient at the time.

Now it seems that a lot of these girls have boyfriends a few hours away at different colleges within the state. However, I'm sure at best that's only 50% of these girls, so the rest are giving me stupid flakes.

I am not putting these girls on a pedestal, I can forget them at the drop of a hat and I don't try to supplicate to what they want. I just find that my ability to cold approach isn't worth much right now because my aggressiveness might come off as desperation, and while my social circle is somewhat large, it's miniscule when you see that my school has >12,000 students.

I'll let you process that information, but what is the jerk approach?
 

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BPH said:
I am not putting these girls on a pedestal, I can forget them at the drop of a hat and I don't try to supplicate to what they want. I just find that my ability to cold approach isn't worth much right now because my aggressiveness might come off as desperation, and while my social circle is somewhat large, it's miniscule when you see that my school has >12,000 students.

I'll let you process that information, but what is the jerk approach?
Personally don't recommend the jerk approach. Ive had several women ask me for sex when I was the nice, gentle, quiet guy who listening and respected them.

Think thats where this site messes people up, teaching people to be the alpha male. "Be a jerk, don't call her back, dont supplicate, pretend your busy doing other things and if shes lucky she will get a call from you. You are doing her a favor giving her sex, you are doing her a favor taking her out."

May work for some, but I've done it with hot girls and some models I've gone out with, rarely works for me. I get more out of being the nice quiet guy.
 

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Trump said:
Personally don't recommend the jerk approach. Ive had several women ask me for sex when I was the nice, gentle, quiet guy who listening and respected them.

Think thats where this site messes people up, teaching people to be the alpha male. "Be a jerk, don't call her back, dont supplicate, pretend your busy doing other things and if shes lucky she will get a call from you. You are doing her a favor giving her sex, you are doing her a favor taking her out."

May work for some, but I've done it with hot girls and some models I've gone out with, rarely works for me. I get more out of being the nice quiet guy.
Ok but how does that work out in college? The nice quiet guy is the one sitting in his dorm room on a Friday night.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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The answer here is simple and you pretty much already answered it.

One your approach stinks.

Not trying to be harsh or a d-hick, just honest so you can see it for yourself and start getting results.

You definitely are missing the element of building rapport/comfort with the girl.

It would be similar to a sales guy coming to your door, saying "hi" then immediately saying:

"oh I have the this great product, see right here, its so shiny and new and neat, you HAVE TO buy it! So can I pencil you in for 3 of them???"

Instead, approach confidently like you are, don't make your ice-breaker about someone they don't know (making fun of your roommate) because that's just weird; keep things simple.

I like to talk about something going on in our immediate surroundings because it bridges the commonality gap since we are both in the same spot, seeing the same thing.

From the opener, go for a bit of playful teasing, find out a little bit about her; if she's enjoying your company you will know immediately based on her body language, smiles, etc. From there, use the false time constraint, get her # and bounce.

Don't be in such a rush to approach, and get the # in 3 minutes are less.

I don't even know why getting #'s is glorified on this site since in reality it doesn't mean a damn thing. So you got the #, now what? If she doesn't answer or call you back, then you know she wasn't interested and your approach needs some revision.

Instead focus on KILLING IT when you meet her, look your best, approach confidently and show her a good time. If she is really digging you, then suggest going to the cafeteria, student union, etc etc to continue the conversation.

I guarantee you if you do this and do it correctly you will get laid with minimal effort.








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Pimp-sicle said:
The answer here is simple and you pretty much already answered it.

One your approach stinks.

Not trying to be harsh or a d-hick, just honest so you can see it for yourself and start getting results.

You definitely are missing the element of building rapport/comfort with the girl.

It would be similar to a sales guy coming to your door, saying "hi" then immediately saying:

"oh I have the this great product, see right here, its so shiny and new and neat, you HAVE TO buy it! So can I pencil you in for 3 of them???"

Instead, approach confidently like you are, don't make your ice-breaker about someone they don't know (making fun of your roommate) because that's just weird; keep things simple.

I like to talk about something going on in our immediate surroundings because it bridges the commonality gap since we are both in the same spot, seeing the same thing.

From the opener, go for a bit of playful teasing, find out a little bit about her; if she's enjoying your company you will know immediately based on her body language, smiles, etc. From there, use the false time constraint, get her # and bounce.

Don't be in such a rush to approach, and get the # in 3 minutes are less.

I don't even know why getting #'s is glorified on this site since in reality it doesn't mean a damn thing. So you got the #, now what? If she doesn't answer or call you back, then you know she wasn't interested and your approach needs some revision.

Instead focus on KILLING IT when you meet her, look your best, approach confidently and show her a good time. If she is really digging you, then suggest going to the cafeteria, student union, etc etc to continue the conversation.

I guarantee you if you do this and do it correctly you will get laid with minimal effort.








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Nailed it! :rockon:


P.S. Making fun of other people to make yourself look good is usually a losing strategy. It comes off as weak and insecure. You're in college now, lose the high school BS. If you really want to impress people be the guy who builds everyone around him up. That's the kind of person everyone wants to be around. Put yourself on the pedestal and bring others up to join you. Your popularity will go thru the roof!
 

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BPH said:
Ok but how does that work out in college? The nice quiet guy is the one sitting in his dorm room on a Friday night.
you can be nice/quiet and still go out on a friday night. I mean i never smashed in college but i feel there was some chances I could have. Too late now for me. People make it seem like if you cant smash in college, you cant smash anywhere but maybe it takes longer for some people
 

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Pimp-sicle said:
The answer here is simple and you pretty much already answered it.

One your approach stinks.

Not trying to be harsh or a d-hick, just honest so you can see it for yourself and start getting results.

You definitely are missing the element of building rapport/comfort with the girl.

It would be similar to a sales guy coming to your door, saying "hi" then immediately saying:

"oh I have the this great product, see right here, its so shiny and new and neat, you HAVE TO buy it! So can I pencil you in for 3 of them???"

Instead, approach confidently like you are, don't make your ice-breaker about someone they don't know (making fun of your roommate) because that's just weird; keep things simple.

I like to talk about something going on in our immediate surroundings because it bridges the commonality gap since we are both in the same spot, seeing the same thing.

From the opener, go for a bit of playful teasing, find out a little bit about her; if she's enjoying your company you will know immediately based on her body language, smiles, etc. From there, use the false time constraint, get her # and bounce.

Don't be in such a rush to approach, and get the # in 3 minutes are less.

I don't even know why getting #'s is glorified on this site since in reality it doesn't mean a damn thing. So you got the #, now what? If she doesn't answer or call you back, then you know she wasn't interested and your approach needs some revision.

Instead focus on KILLING IT when you meet her, look your best, approach confidently and show her a good time. If she is really digging you, then suggest going to the cafeteria, student union, etc etc to continue the conversation.

I guarantee you if you do this and do it correctly you will get laid with minimal effort.








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You make it sound like I have to sweep a girl off her feet to get a nut off...

I mean this sounds solid, but this sounds like a lot of effort for the OPPORTUNITY to f*** a girl.

Also I could care less about the number, it's just that we both have busy schedules at school so that's a good way to stay in contact.

EDIT: I don't make fun of my roommate but he is quite weird. I just tell them where he's from and how much older he is. I say he's nice and easygoing, there are just some things he does that are strange.
 

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You can have a 1000% solid "game" and she can still not call you if she doesn't like your shoes or your haircut. Nothing is a guarantee. You can only control your half, after that it's in her court. They are natural born liars to boot. They'll give you their panties to get rid of you, then disappear. All you can do is try your best.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Contrary to movies and popular belief college is not a non-stop free-for-all fvckfest for everyone. Just like with anything it's a minority of the people having the majority of the sex. If you think chicks are bad when they have a few options then there you'll see how picky they can be when they have 100x as many.
 

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1. Wait to catch her second glance. Interested girls will look at you twice.

2. Move in and use kino/convo.

3. Isolate & Close (number, venue change, fvck, etc).






If all else fails ... Tell a good bro that you've been in a dry spell for a few weeks and want to get laid. get him to help you/vett you/wing/etc.

every time i head back to see my old friends, they ask if id like to be hooked up with a girl while im in town. sometimes no, sometimes yes.



also make sure the parties you go to arent some lame duck "beer pong party", or something gay like sitting around on couches jibbering to one another. always try to know WHERE a dance/club type venue or party is. "hey you want to come dance? theres this dance party in room ___???"

once on the dance floor, everythings a lot easier cause your kino is expected and welcome and shes having a good time and hopefully got a BAC above 0.1
 
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omega05 said:
you can be nice/quiet and still go out on a friday night. I mean i never smashed in college but i feel there was some chances I could have. Too late now for me. People make it seem like if you cant smash in college, you cant smash anywhere but maybe it takes longer for some people
college is an ideal place to get laid
 
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1. Wait to catch her second glance. Interested girls will look at you twice.

2. Move in and use kino/convo.

3. Isolate & Close (number, venue change, fvck, etc).






If all else fails ... Tell a good bro that you've been in a dry spell for a few weeks and want to get laid. get him to help you/vett you/wing/etc.

every time i head back to see my old friends, they ask if id like to be hooked up with a girl while im in town. sometimes no, sometimes yes.



also make sure the parties you go to arent some lame duck "beer pong party", or something gay like sitting around on couches jibbering to one another. always try to know WHERE a dance/club type venue or party is. "hey you want to come dance? theres this dance party in room ___???"

once on the dance floor, everythings a lot easier cause your kino is expected and welcome and shes having a good time and hopefully got a BAC above 0.1
askn a bro to help u get laid depends on the bro. that bro must be really good and have an abundance or good relationships w/ some girls he can indirectly tell to come f**K you, it's not going to be easy. so unless the OP has that kind of bro, all any of his bro's can do for him is probably offer advice or be a wingman
 
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Zerro said:
Contrary to movies and popular belief college is not a non-stop free-for-all fvckfest for everyone. Just like with anything it's a minority of the people having the majority of the sex. If you think chicks are bad when they have a few options then there you'll see how picky they can be when they have 100x as many.
hahahaha so true. if all else fails, you can always pound fully figured girls just to bust that nut
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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OP, just hang in there. it's only 2 weeks, people are only starting to break out of their shells. as the semester unfolds you will be okay. some girls might wanna get a little comfortable w/ you first, so don't be discouraged. forget about people who get laid like the first weekend of school lol. sometimes u just meet that 1 girl who wont mind screwing you right then and there.

again, as the semester unfolds you will be okay. from your posts it sounds like you are rushing. it's like meet - text girl to come hang out. try and place a step in-between "meet" and "text girl to come hang out".

meet - text girl to go eat @ dinning hall a couple of times - text girl to come hang out
 

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BPH said:
What I'm generally doing is playing the numbers game. I approach a girl, ask her her name, shake her hand, introduce myself, and bring up an ice breaker...usually something about my weird roommate or one of my really tall friends. After that I usually give a false time constraint and either offer them my number or ask for theirs, whichever is more convenient at the time.

Dating is a numbers game. But your approach is pretty basic and overused. And don't offer your number. Get hers and call her in front of her.

Now it seems that a lot of these girls have boyfriends a few hours away at different colleges within the state. However, I'm sure at best that's only 50% of these girls, so the rest are giving me stupid flakes.

If a woman tells you she has a boyfriend, walk off. Don't give her any more attention. She is bringing this up to let you know that she's just not that into you.

I am not putting these girls on a pedestal, I can forget them at the drop of a hat and I don't try to supplicate to what they want. I just find that my ability to cold approach isn't worth much right now because my aggressiveness might come off as desperation, and while my social circle is somewhat large, it's miniscule when you see that my school has >12,000 students.

Don't supplicate. That's a great way to get friendzoned as an orbiter. Your cold approach needs work. But always keep a social circle.

I'll let you process that information, but what is the jerk approach?

The jerk approach is just being an a$$hole to women. But will it work for you? Give it a try. Nice guys finish last. Don't let yourself get run over. Don't be a doormat. It's better to be rejected as a jerk than a doormat. Jerks have a better chance of getting sex than doormats do.
Read between the lines. Now read what Zerro said again. Listen to this too, nothing in life is etched in stone.

You've gotta keep on truckin'! Have you read my sticky threads with those common cases?

Check 'Em out!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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