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i've been trying to drop my gfs shiel for a couple of weeks now....when we make out , dry hump and all that good stuff she will let me take off her shirt and her bra and i can do anything i want with her top half...with the bottom half its a diff story...she will let me rub her pvssy all i want and i can tell she likes it by the way she moves and the noises she makes its up to the point where i can unbutton her pants while doing this and she wont even notice and later wonders how her pants were unbuttoned

when i try to go under her pants either being on top of her panties or under them too she grabs a hold of my hand and moves it away from that region.....is there anything i can do to prevent this from happening?

she has even told me she wants to be more open sexually with me like me fingering her, her giving me bjs, and stuff like that....

but she still stops me when i go uder the pants :down:
 

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Screw the top, go for the pants first. Try eating the taco hehe but if she still doesnt want to do the do. I would get up and leave, dont get mad just act like if u are turned off.
 

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Give it more time...
She's not comfortable yet. Stop talking about sex in general. Just let her slowly grow closer to you.

Key word: slowly.

She wants stuff to be "perfect" and she wants to take her time. You have to respect that if you want the goods.
 

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Yeah basically give it time, one day she'll just magically want to lose her virginity. Seriously lol.

Don't try to do sexual things all the time, but make sure you keep up your pace but don't continuously go for the crotch area. Slight pressure, and time. She'll eventually cave.

Give a little more time, then do something really out of the ordinary and fun one day. Something you guys don't normally do. Arrange a spending the night somewhere of some sort and that should do it.
 
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"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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AC/DC:

I dont talk about sex or sexual stuff, its her. Shes the one that talks about finger, other things and eventually loose her virginity with me. So its not like im trying to rush anything...it's like she tells me one thing but when it comes down to it shes too shy about it.


CrazyAsianBiker:

I've already slept over at her place twice...and i dont continiously go for the crotch area...i like carress her whole body...


Alittle something that happened yesterday:

I talked to her yesterday and after a while i brought up when was she going to strip for me because she hasent had a chance to do it yet(3 weeks ago she told me she wanted to strip for me) and she said she would do it next Wed. when i sleep over after a show were going to. When she first brought it up she wanted to strip down all the way and now she only wants to do it down to her panties/thong...and I asked why and she said because shes scared/shy of what I might say about her body even though she knows I like her body alot...
 

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you're basically in there.

It's really hard at first to really know how to get sexual with a girl and to time everything perfect when they're being prude.

Be glad that you're not with a slut.

You basically have her stripping. When girls say things like "im embarassed about myself etc." It usually seriously just flys in one ear and out the other cuz it's either a bull**** way to make you comment her, or it's something that goes way unless they are fat.

Don't make flat out comments when she's stripping. Just be like, mmm, that's great. Stuff like that.

Maybe this wont be the right time to take her virginity at all. But it's definately a huge step in the right direction Just keep doing what your'e doing.

Edit: A lot of girls also want you to say a bunch of stuff so they feel like it was a justified time to lose their virginity. (after britney spears every girl is in a rush to have sex now.) So guage the way she acts towards you, act accordingly.
 

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Great to know that I'm on the right path...even if I dont get laid anytime soon this site has been SO MUCH HELP.

Yeah, I'm glad my gf isent a slvt shes easily the best girl/girlfriend i have met so far

And to think that last year I hadent even gotten 1 gf nonetheless touched/kissed one...and now I feel way more experienced with girls even if something was to happen with this gf I can think of at least 3 other girls who i know i could take anytime i want not including the ex who still has the hots for me :D

SoSuave is the sh*t, makes me wanna dance like this :woo: :woo: :woo:
 

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Originally posted by CrazyAsianBiker
...So guage the way she acts towards you, act accordingly.

So should I do what I always do without going under the pants/panties(cuz i know shes gonna attack me sometime when were in bed if i keep holding out on her all day lol) and if she tries something like go under my pants/boxers then I mirror what she does?
 

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Hm... In a sense yeah,

Rubbing her p()ssy outside her panties while she has NOTHING ON except her panties will usually get her really worked up, but she will still have that fear of losing her virginity.

Hm.... analogy....

Think of the first time you tried something risky.
Maybe... jump from one roof to another roof that is close to that one roof, or saw all your friends jumping into a pool from a 2 story roof. Bike trick, skate trick, etc.

Aside from the physical harm, that's basically the way she's scared. It's a leap for her. Do you remember how you were really considering it? how you really wanted to do it? then you finally did it and went weeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!?

She'll eventually grab up the balls to finally do it.

So get her horny, and feeling a lot of warmth, and attraction towards you.

Maybe you can get her to do it when she's stripping.

Let her know you like it,

::: Her stripping :::

You : Mmm, that's great.

You : Damn....

Every 15 seconds or so.

Have her do it slow and sensual. (Girls get really turned on when they slowly strip)

Give her looks that let her know you're horny, but not REALLY REALLY horny... something like an "ooh," type of look if you can somehow get what i'm saying without the face lol. Kind of frowning in a sense. idk i think you catch my drift.

Then look up at her and give her a warm slow smile. Make it really warm, so warm that you might even feel it yourself.

Keep the smile, yet give a slight hint of the horny look your eyebrows, go back to the warm smile, then at this exact moment KISS.

be slow, sensual, touch her, give her ONE comment of your choice.

carress, very slowly, kiss very slowly, try to get her caught up in a "moment"

she's already basically naked.

don't go for the sweet spot yet.

go arooound the sweet spots, hit her nipple with your arm as you're going up to carress the side of her face and put your hand through her hair.

Stop kissing, look deep into her eyes, with a relaxed loose face, (dont' give another warm look) Then quickly but not too suddenly, kiss her again. if she starts breathing a bit harder, or if she starts relaxing more and moving her body more. ( by this time you should have your shirt off.)

Start dry humping.

Put her arm into different spots then rub up her side, onto her face, back down her side, then stop the touchign for a half second, this time put it up to her face, into her hair. THEN direct her hand towards your crotch. (This gives you an excuse to take your pants off.) But not just yet! Have her rub your c*ck Outside your pants, kiss a little more but don't go back into touching just yet, put her hand into your pants. When she starts working that, give it a little time, then take your pants off like they're just getting in the way of what she's doing WHILE you're still working kino and kissing her. (Ie, pull down your pants with one hand, once they get past your knees you can just use your feet)

now you have boxers on, and she has panties on.

Dont' go for the sweet spots just yet...

Kiss, just a touch more of touching (not too much)

Just a little more, then lightly grab her tit, get your hand from there down to her ass, carress her ass just for a half second (keep the mood.)

And put your hand down the back of her panties and touch her ass, then touch her crotch barely all the way around her ass.

Keep your boxers on, pull her panties off, work this a little more, and here's hoping your boxers have that nifty little hole in the front, well, somehow get your magic wand to stick out of there and start rubbing up against her naked *****, Do this for just a small tiny little while, then i think you know how to take it from there ;). Usually taking off your boxres gives her the time to re think, take off your boxers after a few minutes of already being in there, (again taking things off because they are just getting in the way.)

All this has to be timed perfect. Just get into it yourself, but not too much. If this turns into a sexual relationship, use this to gain a lot of sexual experience.




If this doesn't work, hey **** it she's still not ready. Just don't pressure sex too much and she wont break up with you.

Keep being don juan, and let things get a little bit more personal.

Then the next time, it will work just don't use the exact same method.

Good luck.


Edit: Haha those dancing guys were funny, ahh... I remember the days of feeling like that, good times.... good times.... Let the good times roll and never waste time! You will regret it. ahh the good old days.... :) I'll be putting those little dancing guys in for you when you score.
 

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Ply her with alcohol.

Nobody ever said you had to be moral about it.
 

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CrazyAsianBiker:

Great info there dude thanks for the tips.
I've already gone under the panties in the back like when I do it from behind(her ass) she has no problem with it...I even touched her crotch all the way around her ass before too...its just when im going in through the front lol

Luscious:
Nah thanks dude, I think I'll pass up on that one...thats not the way i want to do it...and thats not the way i want her to experience it either. Besides I've never really been pro-alcohol either, it all tastes like **** to me.
 

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Originally posted by bob88
CrazyAsianBiker:

Great info there dude thanks for the tips.
I've already gone under the panties in the back like when I do it from behind(her ass) she has no problem with it...I even touched her crotch all the way around her ass before too...its just when im going in through the front lol.
No problem :).

Yeah.. It's hard to actually go straight down there. So you kind of have to work your way towards there. Pull her panties down while you guys are in the heat of the moment instead of touching it from the front.
 

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Originally posted by CrazyAsianBiker
No problem :).

Yeah.. It's hard to actually go straight down there. So you kind of have to work your way towards there. Pull her panties down while you guys are in the heat of the moment instead of touching it from the front.
Hmmm...never thought of that lol Maybe because I feel like it she would feel more comfortable if i did it while she had something in instead of her whole bottom being exposed. But then having her whole body exposed to me might turn her on too o_O I think were on to something here lol

:woo:
 

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yeah dude she could be insecure about her pvssy, alot of girls are very scared about what guys say about em cause u know alot look gross and smell bad etc....
 

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yeah dude she could be insecure about her pvssy, alot of girls are very scared about what guys say about em cause u know alot look gross and smell bad etc....
:crackup: I hope thats not the case here lol

I dont think so...cuz last time she made a comment about her getting out of the shower and looking at herself in the mirror...she said she liked how her body looked with nothing on...yup

i hope i like it too lol :D ;)
 

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