"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Getting flaked on by escorts

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Who the hell would think, right? I think this can turn out to be a good discussion. For those of you who have never met up with an escort, let me clarify how it works: You call her up and arrange a meet-up time at her place. Over the phone, she tells you the street where she's located and gives you a cross street. She tells you to call once you get to her street and the cross street. When you get there, she gives you her house/apartment address, and you know what happens from there.

But I've had quite a few experiences where once I've pulled up to her street and called to get her apartment/house address, they've never answered their phone..and I was left hanging, and forced to turn around and head back home. I can't understand why an escort would do that though. I know I don't sound like a creep over the phone, so that part can be ruled out. These experiences have made me realize that not only will a regular chick play games, but also EVEN an escort herself. I can't understand why an escort would go out of her way to maliciously play games like that. Don't forget too, these women get paid good money.

I find this very interesting. Any thoughts? I'd like to hear them. My buddy has had the same happen with him before.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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If you are using an escort who advertises alot she probably got another caller who lived closer.

She might be serving another customer when you called back

Maybe she saw your car and got spooked.

Maybe she got a call to do an outcall that is close to her home.

Maybe she got a better offer. If you book for a 1/2 hour and someone else wants an hour which one do you think she would choose?

Maybe one of her regular customers called. She would probably give preference to a regular.

Maybe she decided she needed a break.

Maybe she is poor at scheduling
 

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She just got a bigger and better deal, and has a lack of character (but being a 'ho, that is a given), making her date with you not the best thing she could do with her time.

Look, a 'ho is just one step up the scale from a professional dater (i.e., a woman who lets a man spend money on her wining and dining) who figures that rather than get a night on the town, with the money being spent on consumption per your direction, she would rather get the cold hard cash so she can spend it per her direction. In exchange for this power over the spending of the money, the good stuff at the end of the evening is guaranteed.

Now with that said, it is pretty bad that men who try to pay for sex are getting flaked on. I guess you will just have to next her. (Golly, the idea of nexting a 'ho is so freaking funny.)
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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traffic now that was friggin funny mate)))))
 

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Paradox said:
Maybe she saw your car and got spooked.
I'd rule that out, because they don't know which car I'm in. When I call, my car is a block away.
 

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Maybe she saw you from a distance and felt either freaked out or that you were a cop or whatever.
 

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Colossus said:
Not that it's any of my business, but why are you using a prostitute?
No hard feelings, but that's actually a pretty dumb question. Think about what it's like to live in a guys shoes(even a guy who's both good-looking and has better game than the avg. guy) for a second, and maybe you'll get your answer.
 

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edger said:
No hard feelings, but that's actually a pretty dumb question. Think about what it's like to live in a guys shoes(even a guy who's both good-looking and has better game than the avg. guy) for a second, and maybe you'll get your answer.
I personally think you are overrating yourself. I don't honestly believe you are as good looking (at least from a woman's point of view) or has better game as you think. Especially if you are in your upper 20s and living in NY City. Honestly...if I was 28 and living in NY City...I would be getting laid at least once a week.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Latinoman said:
Maybe she saw you from a distance and felt either freaked out or that you were a cop or whatever.
No, they don't even see me. Like I said, when I call, I'm not even in their vision, I'm a block away. There's no way they can see me.
 

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Maybe it is what one of the guys already wrote. They had a "better" offer? That sucks.
 

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Latinoman said:
I personally think you are overrating yourself. I don't honestly believe you are as good looking (at least from a woman's point of view) or has better game as you think. Especially if you are in your upper 20s and living in NY City. Honestly...if I was 28 and living in NY City...I would be getting laid at least once a week.
I've had many hot women(and guys) over the years tell me I'm very good-looking. And it's even funny...I met up with this one hot escort a couple of months ago, and when she seen me, the first thing out of her mouth was, "What are you doing here? You're too good-looking to be here". She literally was annoyed that I was there. To cover up, I said I was there because I have a girlfriend and I had less of a chance of getting caught if I used an escort, as opposed to picking-up some random chick at a bar. Of course that was all a lie, I just had to say that to avoid feeling stupid. She believed it...or so she made it seem.
 

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Latinoman, you have to also understand something about NYC...it's not a city of "single" women as you believe. Believe me. Everytime I'm out, virtually all the women are with guys; guys who are either their f*ck buddies or boyfriends. And if they're not with their boyfriends or f*ck buddies, then they're with their male platonic friends...so it makes it virtually impossible to hook up. The last thing I'm gonna do is close in on a chick who's with a guy(s)..even if they're her platonic friends. I'd feel weird closing in on a chick who's with her male platonic friend. Plus, I don't get vibes most of the time from hot women while I'm out in the field. I usually try to go by "vibes", I rarely ever cold-approach, it depends on my mood. I have to be in the mood and right mind-frame to cold-approach a chick who isn't vibing me.
 

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edger said:
Latinoman, you have to also understand something about NYC...it's not a city of "single" women as you believe. Believe me. Everytime I'm out, virtually all the women are with guys; guys who are either their f*ck buddies or boyfriends. .
Funny. Every night I go out, I pull in hot single women by the dozen.

Try the meat packing district. If you cannot pull over there, I doubt you have looks and game.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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guru1000 said:
Funny. Every night I go out, I pull in hot single women by the dozen.

Try the meat packing district. If you cannot pull over there, I doubt you have looks and game.
I don't know Guru, I'm just telling you what I'm observing and experiencing. I'll check out the meat packing district this weekend. What bars/clubs do you recommend? I'm not too familiar with many of the places in that area besides 'Lotus' and 'Hogs and Heifers'. I'm usually on Orchard St., Ludlow, 2nd Ave, Ave A, Ave C, and Varick St.(Don Hills).
 

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PlasticSurgeon said:
NYC (esp Manhattan) is crawling and festered with

HOT (hotter than you've ever seen)
You've got that right! NYC=the HOTTEST women that I've seen so far.
 

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no hard feelings, but that's a dumb answer to a valid question

edger said:
No hard feelings, but that's actually a pretty dumb question. Think about what it's like to live in a guys shoes(even a guy who's both good-looking and has better game than the avg. guy) for a second, and maybe you'll get your answer.
 

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RickE1 said:
But dude, Orchard and Ludlow are total sausage fest explosions. If you're looking for women the LES is the last place I would advise anyone to hit up...
I guess it depends on where you are on Orchard and Ludlow, as well as other spots on the Lower East Side. I can tell you for sure the spots that I hang out on, most of the time the chix are with guys who are either their f*ck buddies, boyfriends, or male platonic friends. So it makes it difficult to pull at those places.
 

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PlasticSurgeon said:
Meatpacking is more for the trendy high roller investment banker looking for a model. The girls look great but are extremely uptight.

If your a big dawg wearing an Armani suit, that area is yours for the taking. Places like Tenjune and Cielo are extremely elite and are less likely to let single guys inside (unless accompanied by a hotty). The Gansevort Hotel is a personal fav.

If your looking for more "chill" women, your best bet is sticking to the village or even Union Square. There are hotties and bars all over that place! All around 14th street, and NYU territory.

I find that super hot women in Manhattan are extremely fashion oriented/materialistic when it comes to selecting males. If I wear anything from Bloomingdales its like every hot woman is on my di**!

Get yourself a pair of Rock and Republic jeans, some gucci shoes, and a white V neck polo undershirt and you'll be RAPED by hot NYC women!
These women in the meat packing district dress very provacative. I've noticed that the ones who go to the "high roller places"(the materialistic gold-diggers) typically tend to be the ones who dress the most provacative.


PlasticSurgeon said:
supranormal hot women (hottest imaginable) are walking around with rich 80 year old millionaires on the Upper East Side. Haha, that's life.
It's called prostitution.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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