"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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so the problem isnt with my ex, we are on good terms and we are on the road getting back together.

the problem lies within her recent ex boyfriend. she broke up with him to get back with me, and he doesnt seem to get that. he broke down at first, and is acting like a total AFC. He begged her to see her again, so after much struggle she gave in.

He calls her at ridiculous hours, and if she doesnt answer, he calls back like 15 times. then calls her house phone and wakes up the whole house. sometimes he shows up at her house without calling.

last time he hung out with her, and was all up in her face, like he wanted to kiss her...and he did. she was taken back and got pissed off at him.

so yeah, theres more but thats more than enough to paint a picture for you. so what do i do? she is getting stressed out by him and is getting tired of it. im getting kind of annoyed slowly, but i dont want to pull an afc move. ive kept my composure but i think something needs to be done now. any advise?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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IMO, let him keep being a douche bag. She'll get so tired of him and never ever want him back. Just let him burn those bridges.
 

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RULE # 14 WE NEVER GO BACK 2 AN EX. Theres a reason why we broke up in the first place.........WHO CARES WHY.......move on.

WE NEVER GO BACK...........FORWARD NOT BACKWARD.

YA but you just dont know this chic, she.............READ RULE # 14...WE

NEVER

GO
BACK

NEVER EVER EVER.

WAY too many great chics out there..........

by 2010 there will be 5 chics to every 1 guy.

Over 3000 women turn 21 in the U.S. EVERY SINGLE DAY!!!

Over 25000 NEW women join match.com every month.

TO GET SEX FORGET THE EX.

tons of reasons why going back means destination WUSSVILLE.

NO NEED TO LIST WHY..........just move on.
 

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Oh, and where is her respect for you by not cutting this guy off? She shouldn't appease him.
 

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i agree with you on the rule. i believe in the rules, but i also believe to trust your gut instinct. there is a reason i broke up with her, and it was a stupid reason. she makes me happy and makes me feel good, and i return those feelings to her. we have amazing sex very passionate and wild. so its not like im not getting any anyways. and its not always about the sex...but its always a plus

first, i admit i acted very AFC, then i caught myself and moved on. afterwords, I let her come back to ME. I did not chase her (even though i wanted to, i learned that doesnt work the hard way) Something tells me you didnt read my post.


and she doesnt appease to him because she still likes him, she does it because hes the fly that buzzes around you begging for attention. she wants the drama to end, and she says to me all the time that she wants the bull**** to end and just be with me.



so basically ive come down to:
1) let him make himself look stupid and AFC
2) show him whats up with my fist
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Yeah, I told her that and she agrees. Would be a **** idea to get with her right now because of some messy spots. Thats why i want a way to deal with this loser. How do you get this guy to leave her alone? He goes to her, she doesnt go to him
 

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thissean said:
Yeah, I told her that and she agrees. Would be a **** idea to get with her right now because of some messy spots. Thats why i want a way to deal with this loser. How do you get this guy to leave her alone? He goes to her, she doesnt go to him
It doesn't matter who is going to whom. She's disrespecting you by allowing it to happen. You shouldn't have to get rid of him. If she values you, she'll do it herself. Do you value yourself?
 

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I have to disagree with that. She has no control over HIS actions. She cannot stop him from calling 1i4690273532 times at 3:00 am. She cannot stop him from coming over at random times. She has told him to cool it and to knock it off. This guy has lost all sensibility. She wants him to stop, but he's an idiot.
 

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Its her job to get rid of this loser.

Not yours.

She needs to tell him to get the fvck away from her and threaten legal action if necessary but basically she has to put her foot down.

Lots of chicks are cowardly and wishy washy over various things and this can be one of them.

She has to grow a back bone and tell this loser whats what.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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thissean said:
I have to disagree with that. She has no control over HIS actions. She cannot stop him from calling 1i4690273532 times at 3:00 am. She cannot stop him from coming over at random times. She has told him to cool it and to knock it off. This guy has lost all sensibility. She wants him to stop, but he's an idiot.
So, you don't think she's appeasing him in some way? She is giving him false hope and leading him to believe there is still something. If she is, and you find value in who you are, you will put your foot down regardless of the outcome. Don't do it in a mean or jealous way, but in a way that shows self-respect. She has to see that you can walk away at any moment, and if she sees value in you, then she'll cut him off. It's plain and simple. Find value in yourself, bro.

KontrollerX said, "he has to grow a back bone and tell this loser whats what". You best believe it, and if she can't, then you must drop her.
 
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