"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I have been into seduction and pick up for almost a year now. Towards the end of last yr, I havnt bothered with "the game". tonight I went to a club (goth club, for the 1st time) and didnt do 1 approach! I went home feeling sad. It's just what I needed to knock me back on track. tomz is a new day and a new start.

I know exactly what it takes cause I tought pple in clubs how to pull, and the main rule is to learn to enjoy rejection. the whole pain regret thing. Hell i even know to get to being great at approaching through baby steps. 1st practise jus stopping random pple and ask their name, then say "sorry I thought you were some1 else". After a while, you can see their intrest in their eyes. Confidence builds and instead of saying, "sorry I thought you were some1 else", you introduce yourself, build rapport quickly, number tie etc.

I will keep this updated, it will keep me in check,

so ladies, "let the games beging!".
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by S0LID
I have been into seduction and pick up for almost a year now.
Gr8!!


Originally posted by S0LID

Hell i even know to get to being great at approaching through baby steps. 1st practise jus stopping random pple and ask their name, then say "sorry I thought you were some1 else". After a while, you can see their intrest in their eyes. Confidence builds and instead of saying, "sorry I thought you were some1 else", you introduce yourself, build rapport quickly, number tie etc.
Oops, you dont have a clue after all..



LOL i'm joking. I know what you ment, that after a while not aproaching you aren't ready for rejections. Well, read anti-dump's machine and go back to the ladies.
 

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Re: Re: getting back to my best and beyond!

Thanks LF

Originally posted by Trance
Gr8!!




Oops, you dont have a clue after all..



LOL i'm joking. I know what you ment, that after a while not aproaching you aren't ready for rejections. Well, read anti-dump's machine and go back to the ladies.
:D I dunno, it's not like 1 day you can read a few posts then be smooth, it's easier to take small steps.

The thing with anti dump, is he was looking for a wife realy. Whatever relationship I'm gonna get into now, I don't want it to last all my life! I'm only 19.
 

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GOAL: LTR

I forgot about this. My dry spell has started to die :)

It's alot harder than last year now, as I've got a bad haircut, which makes me look pale and doesnt realy suite me... On the plus side, i've added alot more muscle. I'm also on roaccutane so my skin has up and down days.

Internet scene.

I found this girl on a profile site, whos in my college. So I messege her saying "oh, i know you, your in my college, whats your MSN?". For a while on MSN I just build rapport. At this point I was tying to recover my mindset. She ened up opening up loads, telling me some realy personal stuff, you'd only tell someone you realy trusted. So thats hardcore rapport rite there.

After a while, I felt thats enough rapport, and started throwing in signals. I started having a gd response. I then saw her in a club, she was waving, and smiling. i waved and smiled back and walked off :D The following week i saw her in college, I said hi, then her lecturer was calling her back into class. The third time I saw her I had a massive smile and said GET BACK TO CLASS! She started laughing.

Problem with her, is shes playing hard to get! She flirts one minute, then the next it's neg hits. It seems shes a kinosthetic person, so I can talk to her forever online and it wont work.

Shes in this club on satuarday, which I'm going to. I will grab her hand to dance, and go for the kill. If that works, all well and good :) If she resists, I won't think twice about NEXTING her! Shes about a hb8 btw.

I have some other web girls, but I'm trying to minimise meeting girls off the net this year. So their just a "now and again" thing.
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Last Satuarday night, club scene.

I drunk 6 pints before I went out. I went to the club alone, drunk another 2 pints. I started dancing alone, and got EC with this hb9, she was very, very tanned, great figure, face, striking eyes, and blonde hair. She kept looking over at me. I was waiting for 1 more look before I approached (unlike last year when i was approaching without any signs), then she nodded me over. So without delay, I moved over, grabbed her hand, pulled her close, danced, then did my "make her kiss me trick", and withing a matter of 10 seconds we were locking lips.

Some jelous guy who was trying to get with her all night came over all upset and angry, threatening me, but I just laughed, and he left. He's lucky he didn't try and find me outside, as I would have wasted him.

Anyways, i number tied her, she said "call me" and I walked home. I havn't txt her back just yet, I'll probs do it tomoz, if that even is her real number... if it isn't, well NEXT!

ANY IDEAS WHAT I COULD SAY IN THE TXT? I know nothing about her, as we didnt realy do any speaking. All i know is i want to keep it friendly.

In general, the club scene is my fave
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Street scene

This is a weak point of mine. I've seen this hb9 (I saw this guy stop his car and look at her forgetting about the traffic behind him) walking the streets a few times. I normaly get ec, and she looks down at the floor, then looks back upto me. I realy need to make a move, EVEN if I afc it and ask my mate to ask her for her number for me. Hmmm maybe not..... I could start saying hi, and then after a few times say hows it going? Then say, whats your name btw? build a little rapport then number tie.
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College scene

tumble weed passes by......
There is this hb7 who checks me out, she poked her toung out at me last year.... Moving on....
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Social circle scene

Well my friend girl, took this photo of me, and showed some of her friends, and she txt me saying 1 of them wants to meet me. Probs, because I'm entertaining.
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Activity scene (like swimming etc)

Well in the summer I'll have the beach and i will probs go swimming and stuff, some easy number ties there. Maybe i'll go to some pool halls, girls hang there :)
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Re: GOAL: LTR

Originally posted by S0LID
IWell in the summer I'll have the beach and i will probs go swimming and stuff, some easy number ties there. Maybe i'll go to some pool halls, girls hang there :)
I'd think twice about the pool hall. At least where I'm from, it's a sausage fest. And on ladies night, often not the ladies I'd want.

Alexi
 

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Thanks dude, any other things i need to change or do? Anyone?
 

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I think you just need to keep the attitude up and think when a chick rejects you its her loss not yours.

For Example:

I saw a chick who was atleast a 9 and got hit on by three guys in the course of 5 minutes while waiting at the bar. So I discovered a stupid idea that worked well (where confidence is key more than what you say). I went up to her and said "hey honey, how was work today?" and gave her a hug while the guy was hitting on her. She was so relieved, of course it was probably one of the biggest boost to my confidence as well as she really dug me. It could of spelt disaster but you never know til you try

We dated for awhile and it was fun, it was a mutal agreement which she moved and we broke up.

I always think never have any regrets, and just take a big step forward. Don't worry about your looks as much just make sure you feel great about yourself first.
 

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You mentioned you really liked the club scene, which is fine. However, try not to do all your DJing while intoxicated, as this can have very negative effects on your longterm game. Social situations are always a bit easier when you're drunk or know the other person is, and this can quickly develop into a crutch. Or you could consider going the club, not drinking much or any for the night, and compare results.
 

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Thanks for the response guys. I go to clubs alot alone. if i go with friends, I usualy wonder off alone, so realy I have to drink. When I went a few weeks without booze, i felt the whole thing boring.

Mystery goes on about going to clubs without drinking, but theres more to it than grls...
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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-yeh make your goddamn move next saturday or i see oneitis comming. have fun with or without and make the fvvvvccckkkkkkkkkinnnnnnnn move!!!

-i dont exactly understand what your goal is, to find a LTR or to be a player in the club scene??

-hmm 1.)what is your make her kiss me trick?? 2.)did you try to get her in bed? 3.)i would just write something like hey "name" was nice dancing with you. did you get home good?watcha doing atm?greetz.
i did write something like that as an AFC and i think it's okay.

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EVEN if I afc it and ask my mate to ask her for her number for me. Hmmm maybe not.....
it IS MUUUUUUUUUCH better to behave "AFC" than to do nothing, of course it would be better if you say "hi how ya doing" yourself, but fvck this DJ pride!!look, if the girl is interested than you don't have to be a perfect DJ - you just have to make your goddamn move and go for it!!!look, as an clueless AFC i asked the sister of a HB for the HB's#....she gave it to me... i txted 3days later and the HB gone crazy and spammed my txt box how lucky she is that i txted her and that she wants to write me a letter and stuff. then as time passed by and i learned the way of DJ'ing i wanted to be a perfect DonJuan. I felt like i have something to lose. I feared making mistakes b/c i thought the approach/conversation/close had to be flawless. I missed many opportunities b/c of that.

I say fvck the ways of perfect DJ'ing, letz man-up, go for it, repeat{move on/succeed}
 

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well last night (friday). I went out alone, got sooooooo drunk. I approached 2 and got 2 rejections in da club. It's a small club there werent many hbs there... Some guys quote stuck in my head.

"some will, some wont, so what"

Anyways, some fvcking bold, 15 stone, angry mofo with a tatoo of a spider on his head gripped my arm, screaming at me. He gripped my arm so dam hard you can see the red marks on my arm now. I was so drunk I couldnt do anything :( i was very sick, even the next morning (today). Plus I look like cr^p, and Im meeting this girl later....

i might take Mysterys advise, and not drink....
 

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BTW, for those that may be confused, 1 stone is about 14 pounds. So this guy was about 210 in lbs.
 

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O my kiss trick :D

When you dance with a girl, aim to kiss her within a minute. Normaly within 10 seconds. When dancing, I pull her in close and put my lips close to her, a bit to the side. Then just look at her lips and she will kiss you.
 

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hit him through the throat:mad: but going to jail is also bad, i hate such situations, you lose with everything you do.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Satuarday

My mate (grl) who brought a friend wasn't hot at all. Not that I expected much. Weired thing is, when I used to practise the stuff I learned in the book "the concise art of seduction" I used it on her, over a year ago. Shes about a hb6.5, nice tanned body, cute face, goes to the gym. Anyways we were catching seperate taxis home after the gig, and she goes "So did you phone that girl?" (the hb9), I said "no couldnt be bothered". She started going on about how bad she felt after i told her :eek:. That was a bit awkward. Since shes a girl, I naturaly tease her.

Anyways back last year, i tried it with her, and it didn't work. Anti Dump rules :D

some more approaches next week hopefully.

"b1tches come, they go"
 

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UPDATE

So I see net/college grl in the club. I don't make any effort. I have a drink, talk to some mates who I know. I see the hb9 from the other night, and this other 6.5 who always smiles at me. I also see Emma, this grl i was meeting before, but turns out she kissed my mate, so I NEXTED her, She sent me txt messeges for weeks intill I txt her back saying FU, more than less. Emma was like dancing infront of me with guys, probs to piss me off.....didn't work. So there was a few nice grls there.

I see my mate from college in the bogs. He goes come and look at this stunning bird I pulled, you can have her mate, he was landed. So I checked her out, well below standard, I cant wait to take the p1ss out of him tomoz :D. He number tied her and goes "lets pull some birds". So I pointed at net girl, and I grabbed her and started dancing, he was in shock. I don't brag at all to my mates or anyone, so he's never seen me in action. Now if you read the posts before this, I've put alot of my dam time into this girl, I have run her through routine after routine untill she was smitten.

So I was with her. I kept busting jokes and taking the piss outta pple, like the jerk I am. No kidding now, guys were just walking upto me and shaking my hand, saying well done, poor AFCs.

So it comes to closing time and tonight I havnt had anyone start a fight with me for once ;) I grab my coat from behing the bar. The hb8 is behind me hugging up to me. We walk outside. I see this girl I know, so I hug her and start holding a convo with her and her friend, trying to involve the hb8, making them all laugh. Me and the 8 are walking home, we live in the same direction. then it comes to the point where we go diffrent directions. I say "later chick" or something along them lines, and walk off. The hb8s friend goes "Matttttttttttttttttttttttttt, will you walk us home". I was tired, but screw it, I'll walk them home. We get to her flat and we're all talking by the stairs I try and get pally with her friend/flat mate. Hb8 goes Im going to bed, so I follow. we're on her bed cuddling (laughing as type this), cause I've run her through the cuddling routine on the net every time i talk to her :D (pure gold). We have been cuddling for like a hour. Thing is, i'm a virgin, and scareed to death about sex. Some guy is outside whos in love with her, her flat mate says shes not in, so he waits outside eventually leave after a while. I of course run him down saying **** like "awwwwww I bet hes got a poem written out and all, make him sing for us" So I was like I gotta go. she is litularly got her arms around me, and pins me down for ages :eek: I finaly get up, with her arms locked around me. I finaly get her off :D (you guys are thinking wtf??). I say do i get a kiss before i go??, she goes "I'm not easy". I say ok last chance :D. She goes "come to bedddddd, plzzzzzzzzzzzzz, plzzzzzzzzz", I reply "bye en".

If i have worked all this out properly, now she will be wow :confused:. All part of my seduction system. Whos got oneitis now double??

I will probs loose my virginity soon, Im just petrified tbh. As this grl is in my college, it means i'll have to see her, dratt! I wanna go a few days without seeing her, gives her time for her oneitis to build up :D
 

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well, now i understand why you didn't answer my question if you tried to f-close the hb9. thing is i was probably even more scared to have sex than you are, i really don't understand why but whatever. all i can say is that it isn't the ultimate big hype i made it up to and that i'm still alive:rolleyes:. and if you don't do it i will be right and you will be the one having oneitis in the end.....so just do it to prove me wrong!
 

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I probs will do her soon, i'm gonna stop jacking off, 3 times a day is too much.... If I do have sex, i can see me being an adict :D I'm evil as it is, i'll probs end up a full blown pimp in a few weeks :D Dude as i said, I don't do oneitis.

I've been thinking about my progression since the afc days, and so many of you guys are doing it wrong. It's mad, you guys are doing the pook thing of the perfect life. Look at me, I go to clubs alone, I have decent looks/body/posture, no job :D, no money, no car, no crib, bit of social proof but not much, and a box of routines and tricks. I have actualy got a note pad with all my routines, sales tactics, body language tricks n ****, if someone found that :eek: especialy if i used them on her :D

Anyways, I've been through this system
1-no girl
2-pick a girl I like
3-get a plan on how to get her
4 execute the plan

Now I'm gonna try to increase the attraction. I think I need to give it a few days. Then a movie in her place, a dam frightening 1. Maybe spend the night over hers, cause she'll be too scared to be left alone :D
 

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ummm i agree that you don't have to have the perfect pook life...but you gotta look good, be strong and feel good. but i disagree with all your routines and stuff....and i don't get why you need them....with good looks and good body you don't need techniques unless you really want to pimp money and stuff out of multiple girls.....or you game them just for the cruel fun of it.....but if you only want girls you doN't need it just go for it man......but whatever you want dude


btw funny stuff with the AFC's congratulating you:D
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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