getting back into the game after years.

[Thebestthereeveris]

Going to go cold approach again and meet a lot of girls in the real world instead of dating apps. I used to be good at this a lot better than average. I know what ****s a set up and what works in the long run due to trial and error. However one part of me worries that i will be so rusty and my previous results not matching with my current results will **** me up. Kind of like i used to bench press 405 5 years ago then i try to hit it again now and i will feel down on myself. Is game like that? Anyone currently been in a similar situation?

 

[BPH]

Expect to close 10%-20% of the women you talk to for a phone number.

Expect maybe 50% of those to be fake/not answer.

Expect maybe another 50% of what's left to fizzle out before a date is set up.

Of what remains, expect 25% to not flake and actually show up for the date.

Of those that show up, expect to kiss maybe 33% of them.

Of those you kiss, expect to f*** maybe 25% of them.

When you're realistic about expectations, the reality of getting rejected so often - whether directly (no) or indirectly (doesn't respond to texts) you'll take it less personally, and can focus on incremental improvement.

 

[Gamisch]

Going to go cold approach again and meet a lot of girls in the real world instead of dating apps. I used to be good at this a lot better than average. I know what ****s a set up and what works in the long run due to trial and error. However one part of me worries that i will be so rusty and my previous results not matching with my current results will **** me up. Kind of like i used to bench press 405 5 years ago then i try to hit it again now and i will feel down on myself. Is game like that? Anyone currently been in a similar situation?

Been going through something similar. Been in multiple LTRS, basically monkeybranced from one to the next. When I was single again it felt like going back to your hometown after being in jail for a couple of years; the game done changed beyond recognition.

This isn’t necessarily advice, more me sharing my story. Ive been spoiled with " easy poon" so I was kinda taken aback when I suddenly learned that now I gotta " fight for my meal" You seem to have the right mindset though..

 

[SW15]

Expect to close 10%-20% of the women you talk to for a phone number.

Chasing the metric of a phone number is worthless. When talking to a woman, the goal is plans for a future social outing. Getting a phone number is secondary to that. I don't bother to collect a phone number if I haven't arranged a date.

I don't arrange dates with 10%-20% of all conversations.

Expect maybe 50% of those to be fake/not answer.

Expect maybe another 50% of what's left to fizzle out before a date is set up.

Of what remains, expect 25% to not flake and actually show up for the date.

There's a fair amount of flaking that happens after the collection of a phone number or even after arranging a date off of an in-person approach.

Of those that show up, expect to kiss maybe 33% of them.

Of those you kiss, expect to f*** maybe 25% of them.

When you're realistic about expectations, the reality of getting rejected so often - whether directly (no) or indirectly (doesn't respond to texts) you'll take it less personally, and can focus on incremental improvement.

This is inefficient. I'll go through some real numbers in a moment.

Expect to close 10%-20% of the women you talk to for a phone number.

Expect maybe 50% of those to be fake/not answer.

Expect maybe another 50% of what's left to fizzle out before a date is set up.

Of what remains, expect 25% to not flake and actually show up for the date.

Of those that show up, expect to kiss maybe 33% of them.

Of those you kiss, expect to f*** maybe 25% of them.

A man approaches 200 women. He gets 32 phone numbers. He has 6 actual first dates. He only kisses 2. He might not actually get laid in approaching 200 women. Almost no one can approach 200 women in a timely manner in real life. That's why men swipe on thousands on women. One man even swiped on 2 million women.

With this level of inefficiency, many men would want to retain women so as to not go through the effort of approaching 200+ women in real life.

 

[Glassguy]

Expect to close 10%-20% of the women you talk to for a phone number.

Expect maybe 50% of those to be fake/not answer.

Expect maybe another 50% of what's left to fizzle out before a date is set up.

Of what remains, expect 25% to not flake and actually show up for the date.

Of those that show up, expect to kiss maybe 33% of them.

Of those you kiss, expect to f*** maybe 25% of them.

When you're realistic about expectations, the reality of getting rejected so often - whether directly (no) or indirectly (doesn't respond to texts) you'll take it less personally, and can focus on incremental improvement.

If your real life stats are that low, you might need to screen harder or make yourself less available to these women. Something seems off.

 

[BPH]

If your real life stats are that low, you might need to screen harder or make yourself less available to these women. Something seems off.

I'm just making estimates based on him saying he's rusty and knowing nothing else about his appearance or where he's located.

Maybe the number close % should be higher, but I'm also considering girls that are in relationships, with their friends, not interested, etc before we even talk about how well OP holds a conversation to ask for it.

 

[We_ArE_VeNOM]

Going to go cold approach again and meet a lot of girls in the real world instead of dating apps. I used to be good at this a lot better than average. I know what ****s a set up and what works in the long run due to trial and error. However one part of me worries that i will be so rusty and my previous results not matching with my current results will **** me up.

Kind of like i used to bench press 405 5 years ago then i try to hit it again now and i will feel down on myself. Is game like that? Anyone currently been in a similar situation?

I've been in such similar situations as it relates to physical training.

But not when it comes to cold approach.

The good thing about my methodology, it requires no trial and error process.

It is simple.

It is a simple concept and process, that you (and others) make difficult because you make it all about the woman.

Once you come to realize that it ain't about the woman, it is about you..then you'll spend less time pondering how to razzle & dazzle them with words, and more time at the gym working on how to razzle & dazzle them without words.