"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Getting apartment with a friend

GeoMan

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I'm 21 and tired of being smothered by my parents. I got a job making 36k a year. Go to school part time. Finished paying off a car. I rarely go out because I don't wanna deal with them getting upset over me getting late or drinking. Lately I been in a ditch with girls and Relationships in general guys too. I feel it's because my parents suck all the fun out of me and just want me to focus on working and school. Im grateful for them but I think its time to leave the bird nest. Any of u guys that has moved out can tell me if it positively affected u with the quality of life and getting laid or was it a let down? I plan on saving 5k before I do it which should be by the summer.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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grayclif

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Seems like you are in a good situation. Should only take you a few months to save that kind of money. Better yet if you stay with your parents you could bank $50k in a few years. At 23 I wish I had $50k in the bank. This kind of money gives you incredible leverage at that age. Or you could try and prove something to yourself and spend all your money on living expenses and girls. Your parents have it right. Spend your time upgrading yourself and saving.

Do you go to the gym?

If the woman you date don't understand this it's their problem. If you are that insecure about women thinking you're broke you can always leave an ATM receipt hanging around that has a big fat balance on it.
 

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Working and education is very important to be able to support yourself. When I moved out I spent a couple of years playing video games, nobody was there to limit me anymore. What was there to limit the fun was the things you must do if alone. Nobody was cooking for me, nobody was cleaning for me, nobody was paying the bills for me. I had to do that and it took away my fun time, I had more time while living with my parents.

Regarding women it made no difference, I was an AFC who just played video games furthering his lack of social abilities. I never brought women to my parents place, even though I could and I know my parents aren't social idiots. When I started curing my AFC behavior I started taking women to my place, except making it obstacle free to have sex I could just as well taken them to my parents house.
 

GeoMan

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Seems like you are in a good situation. Should only take you a few months to save that kind of money. Better yet if you stay with your parents you could bank $50k in a few years. At 23 I wish I had $50k in the bank. This kind of money gives you incredible leverage at that age. Or you could try and prove something to yourself and spend all your money on living expenses and girls. Your parents have it right. Spend your time upgrading yourself and saving.

Do you go to the gym?

If the woman you date don't understand this it's their problem. If you are that insecure about women thinking you're broke you can always leave an ATM receipt hanging around that has a big fat balance on it.
50k at 23 how does it find you incredible leverage?

I been completely unmotivated to hit the gym. I lifted before and was seeing results that everyone was noticing but I haven't been able to find that motivation again. Sucks.
 
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