"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Getting a prom date really all that worth it?

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I know I made a similar thread like this earlier, but is it really that worth it to get a prom date? Right now, I'm really just thinking about going stag(Which is allowed), however, I got two tickets. Reason I'm not trying to focus on getting a date for prom is because there's too much stuff. Like you can't just go up to a random girl ask her to prom and expect her to say yes, just doesn't happen. If a girls not REALLY good friends with you, she won't say yes. It's for this reason I'm not even very focused on getting a date.
 
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Dude, this is you making excuses for your failings. Things that you cannot do are now "worthless", and a waste of time.

It's crap. Get out there, try to find a date, even if you can't you gave it your best.

Burying your head is not an option for a man.
 

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Last year I took a girl I really didn't know to prom.
 

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WesCottII said:
Dude, this is you making excuses for your failings. Things that you cannot do are now "worthless", and a waste of time.

It's crap. Get out there, try to find a date, even if you can't you gave it your best.

Burying your head is not an option for a man.
Wrong. I could ask ANY freaking girl to prom, but it's worthless because no matter how good you are at game, most will say no unless you're like their good friend or even just in their social circle.
 

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Crap mate. Just excuses and more excuses.

If you want to justify your lack of game/skills with your crapola, you've achieved it. Instead of moaning about it, do something about it.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Well lol I've gotten numbers, so yeah it's no lack of game. If I really felt like it I could try asking every girl. But that's just desperate and a waste of time.
 

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Don't come that. If you had any shred of game, youd've used it to find a date and/or call these numbers you've got.

And where did I suggest just walking upto randomers, and asking out of the blue?? I suggested focusing efforts one about 3 girls, seeing if any met your standards, and then asking them, when you've got a "relationship".

Your fear of failure is massive dude.
 

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Not really, seriously though I could go up to 10 girls today, ask them and I'd get some excuse or just no. It's no fear, it's just, I know how the system works. You aint her close friend, she aint taking you to prom.
 

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. . . And so you're back to your starting point. You're all alone at promtime, your choice bud.
 

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Do I dare enter one of these debates? Yes, yes I do.

Anyway. Elstud, getting girls to go out with you is part of the game. More so then 'getting numbers' at least anyway.

Are you sure you understand what girls are actually for? The fun stuff starts happening when you take them out, lol.

Seriously though, ask one/some of the girls you have been number closing. Ones that don't go to your school might be more likely to say yes. Women understand social proofing from birth, lol.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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sam3083 said:
Are you sure you understand what girls are actually for? The fun stuff starts happening when you take them out, lol.
wait... so there are people who actually unchain their girls from the kitchen and let em go loose? weird....


anyways you know the stuff
go up to a girl, get a nice rapport, exchange numbers and if you are not sure enough, take her to your favorite coffeeshop/ hang out place first.
It aint THAT hard.
 

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When I went to Prom a girl I didn't even know came up to me and ask me. I said no at first, but she was cute and had all her friends asking me that whole week, so I gave in and had a good time.
 

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dude, any girl that is single and has an interest in going to prom would definetly say yes Here's why

1. Almost all girls want to go to the prom
2. How do the guys who don't have gfs get dates, they ask them
3. Even if you are a total loser, girls don't want to appear mean, and a lot of them will say yes just for feeling guilty. If they do that, you can prove them wrong at the prom.


You got nothing to lose, and everything to gain, give it a shot
 

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Well lol my friend hooked me up with this girl named Daria, so APPARENTLY I have a date as of now. She's not that good looking, but hey, it beats having no prom date at all.
 

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ElStud said:
Well lol my friend hooked me up with this girl named Daria, so APPARENTLY I have a date as of now. She's not that good looking, but hey, it beats having no prom date at all.

Ah dude, you know the old saying "beggars can't be choosers"
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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