"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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hey fella's.

been intersted in this one girl for a little while,although she is pretty inteligent,she hasnt figured out i like her yet,i prefer to keep my cards to my chest until im 100% sure its worth exposing i like her,we have a pretty flirty friendship have slept the night together,lots of kino,hugs etc ive given her back rubs,foot massages lol,she isnt that open with everyone,so i feel we're not just friends,there's some possibiliy for more then friends?. one prob is,my ex happens to be her best friend,me and my ex broke up a few months back,and things are all good there no hard feelings etc we still hang out,together the 3 of us,so dont hafto worry about her. i told the girl im interested in earlier today that a song reminds me of her,the song dosent need to be named but it isnt a love song,more of an 'admiring' kind of song,and she read the lyrics for it and was interested in what reasons i had for it,and the reason i gave was "her seductive eyes and smile" her reply was "i cant help what i am cough-cough",and i told her to re-read the lyrics to it and she could probaly find the parts i mean,im guessing now that she'd be wondering if i like her or not? and she'd be curious..

what im asking here. is do u guys think thats over the top for a compliment? or any thoughts or tips on the general situation? any feedback welcomed
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Stop being so worried, your too worried and hoping you don't mess up, that is why you are acting like this. But anyway, what does she do to you? does she give you backrubs, go out of her way to do sh!t, only way to see interest level is by doing a compliance tests, or just go for the kiss.
 

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You're flirting with devastation. What devatsation? The devastation that occurs when it hits you that you're just weaving your way into becoming this girl's boy(girl) friend.

It has been said time and time again.. women don't want a man who idolizes them (this isn't the movies). Women want a man who can spark her emotion to idolize their man. You've already begun the process of becoming her tool. You've had several chances to make more out of the situation, and you failed all her tests, ending in just a backrub or a hug.

You dissapointed her the first time you couldn't make the move, but now it's just a given that you are going to be a useful friend, so she doesn't care.

Get your head out of the gutter bro, stop keeping your cards to your chest for so long, and make quick, thoughtless approaches.

Accept that fact that you have not even made love to this girl, nor dealt with her day after day. Your belief that you like this girl is all formulated within your brain.

Get out before you go into major heartache.
 
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you should be more straightfoward with her. I made the mistake a year ago of text messaging all these abstract poems, all it was was a waste of time, because i kept trying to say something in a bizarre type of way, it really isn't worth it. just say what you want to say, but if you insist on the lyrics, then do that. i've done that before though, and it wasn't fun.
 

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im not sure what you's really mean,i have based myself to NOT be a push over,and idolise women like i have once before and i know myself that im not,i do overread situations alot tho but never show it to the girl as i am a natural worryer,i show subtle signs of interest but normally keep it casual and flirty between us,but i know she is unsure whether i like her or not,its hard to explain when the only person that really knows the situation here is me - the type of girl she is etc,indeed i did blow my 1st chance with her,i'll soon get another chance when she stays with me again in a few weeks as i mind my friends place when they go on holidays,and believe me i wont let that chance go without me putting in an effort again,if i continue things on how they are now there will be no problem and its open for me to make a move.

she'd probaly sleep with me on the long couch again,do i make a move when we get back to my place which will be in the am as we normally go out drinking,or do i make a move some time during the next day? when we are alone

i havent had really any experience making the 1st kiss move on a girl who im not dating,as me and my last gf started going out,before we ended up having our 1st kiss.

so any tips on making the 1st move greatly appreicated. im a pretty nervous 1st kisser even wit my ex gf,1st time i was pretty nervous and kinda rushed it but got easier after that.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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interesting to see you guys thoughts on telling her the song reminded me of her,i know how the situation is heading and it was the right way to go,its not a normal thing i do,never really give compliments etc,but it aint a big deal,i make it a big deal giving it thought after thought thinking did i do the right thing? sh*t,what way did she think of it? what if she thinks i do like her??,when it dosent matter,i know ive got a chance,just the matter of going for a move and keeping things going casual until then,thanks for the critisism tho,its refreshing when people point out your wussy side slowly coming out,and ya can stop it right there lol
 

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You should have made your interest more obvious from the get go. Now when you move in for the kiss, she's gonna jump and be all suprised, I'm betting. Not good.

That being said:

Make your move at night when you're alone with her AND drinking.
 

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thats true,your right there.ive been very up and down with signs like that,not sure if you's know what i mean,ive always been flirty and we have sexual convo's etc,and always had kino,but i hope she hasnt got me picked as "flirty friendship" nothing more, how do i get out of it? in the next few weeks so when i go for the kiss it wont be so unexpected? and yet still not tell her i like her
 

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when i go for the kiss it wont be so unexpected? and yet still not tell her i like her
Oh don't say "I like you." That won't get you anywhere.

And you have to go for the kiss based on eye contact.

This is so much easier with women over 22. When the wanna kiss you, they just stand 3 inches from your face with a huge smile until you "initiate". But with those young inexperienced chicks, it can be hard to tell.
 

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yeah she's under 22 lol,so i just keep things going how they are at the moment? any tips to let the kiss be less un-expected ive still got a month or more,considering most time's we hang out,my ex is there so any chance of alone time is ruined,gotta make the best of my few chances.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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