"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Get over her while still with her

dbx

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Any tips for getting over her while staying with her? I can't make up my mind if it would be easier to get over her while I have her.

Don't think I can bring myself to simply dump her and walk away. Care way too much.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Chromeo

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care about what?

It sounds like your already over her if you want to dump her...

Tell her she is a great girl but you need to be a free man for a while.
 

DonJuanit0

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1)cheat on her
2)watch her flaws!
 

cablecow15

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I wouldnt reccomend this , but what i did once was I found a girl online that was a much better match for me than the girl i was with , the girl i was with had flaws and personality traits that contradicted mine , and i ignored them for the most part . But once i found this girl online who had alot more in common with me (keep in mind the girl in question lived far away and was not from a dating site) I found it easier to accept and resent the flaws the girl i was seeing had
 

dbx

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situation is, we're kind of back together after a very short breakup. i'm really into her, but she wants to take things slow and see how it goes. my gut says it's not going to work and that i should end it. i just can't bring myself to do it, so thought perhaps it's best to get over her while i still have her to reduce the pain when it finally ends.

i don't really agree with cheating at any time, so would prefer not to go down that route, but i think i know that would help an amazing amount.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Barracuda

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dbx said:
Don't think I can bring myself to simply dump her and walk away. Care way too much.
You're going about it the wrong way.

If you KNOW she's wrong for you and you make the bold move of ending it, it will serve to reinforce your convictions that she's wrong for you.

It's the law of commitment and consitency. Your actions will take care of your thoughts.

Thing is, you wont know that without doing it.. it's a retrospective kind of payoff.

Anyone who has had the balls to end a relationship they dont want to be in will tell you the same.

Only thing you have to do is be sure that you want out, do it right, and dont look back.
 
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DonJuanabe

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You are into her, she is really not into you, you need to protect your heart. She is going to break up with you again, my guess is that right now she is looking around while taking pity on you and having a "friend" to spend time with during her search. You need to GTFO.
 

youngmack

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DonJuanabe said:
You are into her, she is really not into you, you need to protect your heart. She is going to break up with you again, my guess is that right now she is looking around while taking pity on you and having a "friend" to spend time with during her search. You need to GTFO.
I concur
 

Zerro

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Please don't feed the troll. Take a look at the other threads he's started just today.
 
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