"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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pyros

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Hi.


I've been reading one post about how hot girls show low interest etc.
well, I've also noticed/experienced this.

Im a HB7.5 or above when I dress well, Im fit, Im fun, I have friends, hobbies etc. but anyway I bump into hot girls from time to time and the majority of them are already taken or if single, they just show low interest from the begining. I dont really understand this.

However, I see everyday guys like me that have hot girlfriends. Ive had a pretty hot girlfriend in the past, but since I broke up with her, Ive tried to pick hot girls ...but they look kind of dumb, or they're just weird girls etc.
But, as I was saying, I see normal guys like me with hot girlfriends everyday (same as me one year ago), but for some reason, in a whole year, I havent been able to find another hot and nice girlfriend like my ex. Ive tried, trust me. Ive had a couple of flings...but nothing interesting.

It seems pretty difficult. I see my guy friends and the ones that have a girlfriend, the girl is a HB7 at best...its kind of depressing.
Some of them have told me: 'that girl is above your league' which I laugh at cause Ive had my ex (HB8, nice, caring etc...), and Ive had some flings with pretty cute girls, but my friends just seem to try to depress me, or try to make me think less of myself. Great huh?

So on one hand it seems pretty difficult to find a hot girlfriend who is also nice, fun, normal etc, but on the other hand I see guys with hotties every ****ing day.
Besides, many girls which would not be more than a 6 hit on me on a daily basis. WTF?

I've gotten to the conclusion that one of the most important factors to be able to find a hot, nice, fun...girl is TO BE SURROUNDED BY THEM, I mean, you MUST be in an environment where there are this kind of girls.
For example, some years ago I had a group of 5 guy friends. None of us had any female friend. We did martial arts (no girls there), we played video games (no girls there), we played football (no girls there), I studied engineering (0 girls), and so on. But some guys that decided to study Economics, or Law, were in a classrom with 60 girls every day for 5 years, so almost all of them ****ed several girls and got a girlfriend.

You get my point? I could be fun, fit, handsome ...etc etc, but there were no girls around me, they just weren't.
I dont know if you had the same experiences.
Its funy because my ex who is a HB8 and me clicked from the very first minute. I also clicked with a few hot girls from the very begining, but Im getting fed up of hot girls that display low interest from the first second they talk to you, or they look at you as if they were more important or cooler....wtf? I guess they feel they are above your league, but from my point of view they arent, we're at the same level.


What do you think?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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@saturnalia... bro you need to stop. looks do matter of course, and it makes things so much easier for them to get laid, but that's same as saying we all should give up going up the social ladder because our parents aren't piss rich like the Hilton family, etc. you need some attitude change bro, sh!t, I ain't getting laid, but still I constantly try hard, and one day I will figure it out.
 

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moneyisking said:
@saturnalia... bro you need to stop. looks do matter of course, and it makes things so much easier for them to get laid, but that's same as saying we all should give up going up the social ladder because our parents aren't piss rich like the Hilton family, etc. you need some attitude change bro, sh!t, I ain't getting laid, but still I constantly try hard, and one day I will figure it out.
if you are trying and it`s not working, that means it`s time to stop and try something else

so for the sake of your mentally sanity take a good look in the mirror

than tell me

http://s3.postimage.org/s027rtver/faces.jpg

are you like the guy on the left? or the right?

because the guy on the left has a face that signals high testosterone and virility, while the other on the right has traces of male estrogen which is not a good choice for a woman

there you go, here`s your red pill
 

Who Dares Win

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Saturnalia is spot on, a hot looking guy has a margin of wrong behaviour which is unbelievably highter even than a normal one,let alone a ugly one.

I may say the SAME behaviour from a hot guy not only is not punished but it may be appreciated (imagine a bold aggressive approach) while if done from a normal guy not only it wont work but would also be punished by calling the bouncer and have him kicked out of the club.

So if you have energies to invest, invest them in hitting the gym and grow muscles while getting rid of fat instead of reading countless pick-up books.

The only work a man has to do in in himself, once he scores high with himself chicks will require no work from him....there are no such things as putting some effort to make it work with such chick...she either likes you for what you are or she does not, simple as that.

You dont need tricks to win her over or win over her friends which influence her, if you are hot she wil make no resistance and her same c0ckblocking friend will most likely help you to have you in her life and therefore in theirs.

Girls when judging a guy value him in his look much more than a kkk klansmen judge a man by his skin color.

The good news is that you can improve yourself, it takes planning and work but the iron is fair if you sweat and follow a diet, he pays you back.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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sigh... I am not gona feed the troll no more. I won't be the best looking guy in the world, but if I maintain current physique, finish school and get great paying job in 4 months, invest in style and read and act on materials, I could get a HB 7 and maybe one day an 8.
 

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moneyisking said:
sigh... I am not gona feed the troll no more. I won't be the best looking guy in the world, but if I maintain current physique, finish school and get great paying job in 4 months, invest in style and read and act on materials, I could get a HB 7 and maybe one day an 8.
Out of all the stuff you said, only one thing will be reliable for getting women:

"Act"
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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TillTheEndOfTime said:
Did you just call yourself a "HB bro"?
No, I think he said "a Bulworth Democrat" or "my nigga."
 

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The whole looks scale doesn't really matter, it's how you perceive it, I have 2 mates, who are both over weight, one his girl friend is extremely hot, she has so many men after her its unreal... Said friend is going bald as well, he has confidence though, is really comfortable with himself and will literally say anything to women. Saturday night, I witnessed him lick a girls armpit and they just laughed at him, because he's comfortable in himself and confident they didn't run away and kept on talking to him.

The other friend is over weight, doesn't dress the best, but always has had girls after him, because he can talk to women and is confident and comfortable in being a man...

I have another friend... also over weight as it happens, who has no confidence and isn't comfortable... yep you guessed it, you ever ask a girl about him in a sexual.. they go ewww no, they have none of it!

To a point I agree, if your a good looking guy it helps a lot, but women feel things and if you turn them off straight away then you may as well look like an ogre! And if you are massively over weight or are scruffy in appearance... its an uphill battle, but it's not as important as a lot of guys think..


To get to the point if you are confident and comfortable in your sexuality, whether a girls hot or not doesn't really matter, its how you are what does matter.
 

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I talked about the overweight player thing in Virgil's 80/20 thread if anybody is interested.

playa99 said:
The whole looks scale doesn't really matter, it's how you perceive it, I have 2 mates, who are both over weight, one his girl friend is extremely hot, she has so many men after her its unreal... Said friend is going bald as well, he has confidence though, is really comfortable with himself and will literally say anything to women. Saturday night, I witnessed him lick a girls armpit and they just laughed at him, because he's comfortable in himself and confident they didn't run away and kept on talking to him.

The other friend is over weight, doesn't dress the best, but always has had girls after him, because he can talk to women and is confident and comfortable in being a man...

I have another friend... also over weight as it happens, who has no confidence and isn't comfortable... yep you guessed it, you ever ask a girl about him in a sexual.. they go ewww no, they have none of it!

To a point I agree, if your a good looking guy it helps a lot, but women feel things and if you turn them off straight away then you may as well look like an ogre! And if you are massively over weight or are scruffy in appearance... its an uphill battle, but it's not as important as a lot of guys think..


To get to the point if you are confident and comfortable in your sexuality, whether a girls hot or not doesn't really matter, its how you are what does matter.
 

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@Mike, just read it man, interesting read on how you see build relating to attraction, both my mates are pretty big guys as well, we all are in my group of my mates, I still believe that its who you are and the persona you give out which is the biggest part of attraction, looks get you in the door, personality gets you in the bed!
 
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