"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Get Er Done!?

nan3109

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ok here's a quick question

there's this girl, i met her monday when i got back to my room and she was my roomies friend from a class

well, she was talking to me alot and even told me she was into me and thought i was really cute, so thurs and fri we both got drunk together in my room... when we would talk she would talk about relationship type stuff and other crap

well, we ended up in my room both nights (thurs we were alone, friday her friend and my guy friend were there) and dancing with party-type lights and my subs hooked up. Really sexual dancing. She let me rub her anywhere I wanted really and when we stumbled onto my roomies bed I got her shirtless, kissing her neck, titties (sucking and nibblin) and playin with her puss on the outside of her pants (i would've went down them but my friend was in the room on friday).

so.... when i try to kiss her she giggles and smiles (blushing) alot and turns her head and tells me how kissing is meaningful and she cant yet, she has a 5 date rule or something

so what should i do? keep persuing or take her on a date (like out to dinner) or next her?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Pugsley_f5

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She has a five date rule, thats garbage, thats just her not making it seem likes shes easy (she doesnt want to look or feel like a tramp so she says that), alot of girls will tell you this, alot of girls have a "3 date rule" that is until you give her sufficient evidence and motivation to break that rule...which you can do every time.....AKA Get er horney.....then Get er done!
 

nan3109

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Originally posted by Pugsley_f5
She has a five date rule, thats garbage, thats just her not making it seem likes shes easy (she doesnt want to look or feel like a tramp so she says that), alot of girls will tell you this, alot of girls have a "3 date rule" that is until you give her sufficient evidence and motivation to break that rule...which you can do every time.....AKA Get er horney.....then Get er done!
yeah last night when i was fingerin her on top of her pants, her girlfriend was in the same dorm room with us and making out with my friend. But still, she was moaning some and grabbing the back of my neck really hard and ****. Defenitely horny. I bet I could've fingered her under her panties if her damn girlfriend wasn't there :-(

But yeah, hornyness works. I think I'm going to hang out with her once or twice more, take her out once, and then get er done

also she even told her friend (girl) who was with her that the shirt she borrowed from her didnt go with her because it was a 'slutty' shirt that she can't pull off. I dont get it because this girl is like 5 foot 7 tall asss blonde who's freakin hot and cool as hell
 

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She's not ready yet man. Its quite simple. I had the same thing happen to me with my last ex. Did the ol' massage trick, kissed the neck, rolled her over, got her nice and horny, and attempted to go in for the kill. She was breathing heavily, and she even told me she was really horny but she's not ready yet. She wanted to wait b/c it would be more meaningful. I thought it was garbage but its her choice. Give it some time. If you dont want to give it time, then next her, but not every girl is going to put out by your time standards.
 
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Originally posted by Wiesman44
She's not ready yet man. Its quite simple. I had the same thing happen to me with my last ex. Did the ol' massage trick, kissed the neck, rolled her over, got her nice and horny, and attempted to go in for the kill. She was breathing heavily, and she even told me she was really horny but she's not ready yet. She wanted to wait b/c it would be more meaningful. I thought it was garbage but its her choice. Give it some time. If you dont want to give it time, then next her, but not every girl is going to put out by your time standards.
ya thats what date rape drugs r for.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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