picard
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do men have to be aggressive in life to get ahead in life/career?
I think nice guys tend to finish last ?
What is your opinion?
I think nice guys tend to finish last ?
What is your opinion?
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get aggressive to get ahead in career / life?
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picard
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I met CEO who are assho*e. They have ego the size of a skyscraper building. They often talk aggressively to people too.
For men who become presidents, they have to be aggressive acting preemptively against enemies. For example, former president Clinton is very devious, aggressive guy despite his public calm demeanor. All of his enemies are either charged with some kind of fabricated crime or disappeared completely. We never hear the news reporting it.
For men who become presidents, they have to be aggressive acting preemptively against enemies. For example, former president Clinton is very devious, aggressive guy despite his public calm demeanor. All of his enemies are either charged with some kind of fabricated crime or disappeared completely. We never hear the news reporting it.
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Passionate and hard working. Aggressive is too subjective.
Aggressive a$$hole? Not required. Aggressively get things done? Okay.
Let me tell you what I learned about leadership while serving as a grunt in the USMC.
There are basically 3 types of "leaders."
1. Leaders who are leading only through position. These guys are nice guys but complete pushovers who let their men implicitly call the shots. They want to please everybody and always be the good guy.
2. Leaders who use fear and aggression to control the situation. They can control their men and get things done. However, when they are not present their men will do anything to f^ck them over. They never have anybody to watch their back and will often face a passive resistance from those they control. Things get done but only because their men are scared not too.
3. Leaders who are fair and empathetic to their men yet have enough balls to do the unpopular thing. These guys get genuine respect from their men. When they are not around their men will often do the right thing (what needs to be done) because they care about their leader. The men always have the leaders back and have more respect for him than the parent organization.
This easily transfers to the business world. Have you ever worked for a company that you really like for people you really liked? You'll probably notice that you tried hard to do a good job because you actually cared.
Compare this to a bad company with bad management. There you probably just did enough not to get fired and maybe even sometimes sabatoged things.
Now leadership extends past the role of boss and worker. To be successful in life you have to get things done. Like it or not this often requires the help of others. You can get the help by making people fear or think there is something in it for them or you or you can get the help because you're a cool guy who people genuinely like to help.
Like they say, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. And this is true.
Sure a$$hole still make it to the top alot. But at the end of the day they only have themselves. Their fake friends will support them as long as they are in a top position while maybe plotting against them and there will be a whole mess of people who would love to see their downfall. That doesn't sound too successful to me.
Another problem with being the aggressive a$$hole is you have to have no limits on how far you'll go. This is why ruthless gangsters run things. Because they have no limits. Evn most a$$holes have limits. This poses a problem when you run into a stubborn person or an even more aggressive a$$hole with no limits.
Aggressive a$$hole? Not required. Aggressively get things done? Okay.
Let me tell you what I learned about leadership while serving as a grunt in the USMC.
There are basically 3 types of "leaders."
1. Leaders who are leading only through position. These guys are nice guys but complete pushovers who let their men implicitly call the shots. They want to please everybody and always be the good guy.
2. Leaders who use fear and aggression to control the situation. They can control their men and get things done. However, when they are not present their men will do anything to f^ck them over. They never have anybody to watch their back and will often face a passive resistance from those they control. Things get done but only because their men are scared not too.
3. Leaders who are fair and empathetic to their men yet have enough balls to do the unpopular thing. These guys get genuine respect from their men. When they are not around their men will often do the right thing (what needs to be done) because they care about their leader. The men always have the leaders back and have more respect for him than the parent organization.
This easily transfers to the business world. Have you ever worked for a company that you really like for people you really liked? You'll probably notice that you tried hard to do a good job because you actually cared.
Compare this to a bad company with bad management. There you probably just did enough not to get fired and maybe even sometimes sabatoged things.
Now leadership extends past the role of boss and worker. To be successful in life you have to get things done. Like it or not this often requires the help of others. You can get the help by making people fear or think there is something in it for them or you or you can get the help because you're a cool guy who people genuinely like to help.
Like they say, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar. And this is true.
Sure a$$hole still make it to the top alot. But at the end of the day they only have themselves. Their fake friends will support them as long as they are in a top position while maybe plotting against them and there will be a whole mess of people who would love to see their downfall. That doesn't sound too successful to me.
Another problem with being the aggressive a$$hole is you have to have no limits on how far you'll go. This is why ruthless gangsters run things. Because they have no limits. Evn most a$$holes have limits. This poses a problem when you run into a stubborn person or an even more aggressive a$$hole with no limits.