Georgia State has a White Student Union....

[speed dawg]

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/state-...rts-informal-white-student-union-at-ge/nY887/

Why is this considered racist?

 

[Jaylan]

The only time pride groups are an issue is when they promote superiority and segregation. It just so happens that many white pride groups (not necessarily the one in the OP) preach just that.

In college we had Asian, Black, and Latino student unions. But they preached togetherness and unity, as well as ethnic pride. And they were open to people of all races, and not every person who was in those groups were of one race.

I even helped start an intercultural union that was all about diversity and getting all the races together to learn about one another and discuss important issues. If a white student union does these things, it wont be seen as racist. If it preaches any segregation crap or superiority crap it will be seen as racist.

One must consider that the history of white pride is steeped in supremacist ideas of hate. However Id have no issue with a peaceful and inclusive white student union.

 

[Jaylan]

Well, they cannot preach anything they want if they are to be affiliated with a educational institution. Hate speech is allowed under freedom of speech (stormfront.org, New Black Panther Party, etc) but no organization has to allow such harmful speech to be allowed on its ground. Especially not a diverse college institution.

As a former executive board member for a campus organization, I can tell you that ALL clubs make use of campus resources. Even if its just using rooms and video equipment, those are campus resources, and you cannot violate campus policy if you wish to use their resources. And you can forget about funding and school wide promotion in newsletters and campus wide emails if you violate campus rules as well.

 

[speed dawg]

I think they should be able to preach whatever they want to preach. It's only an issue if people make it an issue. Otherwise it's just people spouting opinions, which is legal in this country. Universities are supposed to be bastions of free speech and free exchange of ideas, however loathesome to some people. You have a right to racist opinions and to express those opinions. Most campuses restrict speech, unfortunately.

I agree, but that's not really the issue. You can be racist all you want, you just have to suffer the consequences.

I'm more speaking to the reason as why this is even news....people WANT to call this racist.

 

[FairShake]

For a long time the Republican Party and other conservative groups acted as watchdogs for white people's interests. Obviously all white people didn't want them too but many in the heartland and suburbs clearly did. Not all it's policies helped white people mind you, but in conflicts with other groups the party and it's other groups came down on the side of white people.

I think the Republican Party has abandoned this track now. They still have the scent of doing so but are awkwardly trying to appeal to a more diverse grouping of people. It definitely has to do this to survive so I think that a group watching white interests will poke it's head up. It has to be one that realizes it will be called racist and is ok with that. As long as other people labels you and engages in it's own interests a group needs to organize for it's own interests as well. And be unapologetic about it because, in a perfect world, that's what people do. In an imperfect world too but it will be harder.

 

[TheStig]

Funny the Republicans should get such a bad name, as they have done much more than the Democrats to improve the situation of blacks in the US. Among other things:

- the Republican party was originally founded as an anti-slavery party and fought hard to free blacks from slavery
- Abraham Lincoln, a republican, signed the emancipation proclamation and freed the slaves
- the republican party passed the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments granting blacks freedom and the rights to vote and citizenship
- republicans passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 prohibiting racial discrimination in public accommodations
- republicans passed the 1964 civil rights act by a greater percentage than democrats
- many prominent black leaders, such as Booker T Washington and MLK jr, were republicans
- it was the republicans under Richard Nixon who in 1969 instituted Affirmative Action
- George W Bush appointed more blacks to high level positions than any other president, including obama

But whatever.. there's still lots of de facto segregation in the southern US, i just watched a report not too long ago where I learned that high schools still put on separate proms for black and white students, so none of this really surprises me.

Fvckin A bradd, great post!

 

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Six students complained to the university after seeing his fliers around campus

Those 6 ****s should have been taken to task by the university.

I know it's not in whiteys nature to whine like a helpless newborn retard, but it's good to see these guys playing the same game as leftoids and (some) minorities. They just got to be consistent and shout "HATE SPEECH" and all that other bullsh!t louder than the other fvckknuckles who have been doing it non stop for the past half century.

Maybe it's time to get in on this perpetual victim club gaylan here is always rocking. :rockon: At least until all the "victims" reach critical mass and it collapses in on itself. Seems under this current social climate loserdom is the new winner.

Everyones a victim baby that's no lie (yes, no lie) you never fail to cry unsatisfied...yeah yeah yeah

 

[the_stig]

How can a just society have a prominent 'black student' union, while simultaneously banning a 'white student' union?

 

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How can a just society have a prominent 'black student' union, while simultaneously banning a 'white student' union?

I don't think this one in particular is banned, it just says it's not recognized by the university, which entails financial support and reserved meeting spaces.

Sharp said he doubts he will seek official status. The group would need a faculty or staff advisor and Sharp doubts he’d find one.

To hell with that, I'd still try. Then claim "oppression" if I couldn't find one. These fellas are gonna have to go full retard if they want to get anywhere with this.

 

[Jaylan]

White ethnic pride is considered to be "superiority". Whites are not allowed to have ethnic pride.

Again, my point was that the past and present is to blame for this. Many, if not most white unions are based upon supremacy and hate. Not many are simply about unity and ethnic pride.

If a white union was like many other ethnic unions, and was open to all, and didnt preach being better than everyone and tried to spring forth togetherness, then Id have no issue at all with said union.

Funny the Republicans should get such a bad name, as they have done much more than the Democrats to improve the situation of blacks in the US. Among other things:

- the Republican party was originally founded as an anti-slavery party and fought hard to free blacks from slavery
- Abraham Lincoln, a republican, signed the emancipation proclamation and freed the slaves
- the republican party passed the 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments granting blacks freedom and the rights to vote and citizenship
- republicans passed the Civil Rights Acts of 1866 and 1875 prohibiting racial discrimination in public accommodations
- republicans passed the 1964 civil rights act by a greater percentage than democrats
- many prominent black leaders, such as Booker T Washington and MLK jr, were republicans
- it was the republicans under Richard Nixon who in 1969 instituted Affirmative Action
- George W Bush appointed more blacks to high level positions than any other president, including obama

But whatever.. there's still lots of de facto segregation in the southern US, i just watched a report not too long ago where I learned that high schools still put on separate proms for black and white students, so none of this really surprises me.

Do you understand politics at all? The parties arent the same as they were 50 or 100 years ago. Southern Democrats left the party when LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act, and thus the Republican Party is what it is today.

To compare the parties of the past to the parties of the present isnt wise. Many great past presidents and politicians would be in different parties today then the parties of their time. And you need to brush up on your facts like Social Leper said. I really think some guys here would be well served to take a political history course.

For those who actually know their history today's conservative Republican is very much like yesterday's southern Democrat. Its really silly to try and compare what each party did in the past to what the same party is doing today. The parties have GREATLY evolved and changed, while having all types of people come and go out of the party.

 

[Jaylan]

^Your point still falls flat. The southern Democrats who were against civil rights and equality went into the Republican party. And both parties thus evolved and realigned. It doesnt matter what the Republican party did in the past when its current ideals dont line up with its past.

Many past republicans would be present day democrats and vice versa. So its stupid for people, especially right wingers, to constantly bring up what Republicans did for minority groups in the past...especially when many of its past party affiliates wouldnt even be republicans today.

If someone does right by me during the first half of my life, but then starting in 2002, decides to be a d!ck to me, and all I remember of the last half of my life is them not really being like they used to be....why in the world would I care about the good they did in the past?

Thats an apt analogy of political parties and different minority groups. It doesnt matter if you were all about some peoples rights years ago if your party changes ideals and is a different party today. And it definitely wont matter what that Republican party did in the past, if all the past and current day haters ran over to that GOP when they werent getting their way in the Democratic party. Is it any surprise that voting blocs realigned and that parties evolved when a huge block of southern racists leave one party for another?

TL;DR - Its basically a case of "What have you done for me lately?". Comprende brad the f@g? See...I can make homosexual jokes with someones username as well. And I can rhyme too

 

[Jaylan]

Yeah you're right, in the last 40 years everyone in the Republican party became a Democrat and all the Democrats became Republicans.

Did I say that? Are you putting words in my mouth by being sarcastic, or do you need to reread what I wrote? It helps to read things word for word, with comprehension, and without adding your own assumptions to the statements you are reading.

I said southern Democrats left the party in droves and aligned with the GOP. This had great impact on the party's message and focus. I didnt say all democrats, nor did I say all republicans are anything. People within a party dont all think alike, but its very easy for a bigger group within a party to hijack a parties main objectives. Southern Democrats hijacked the Republican party.

 

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From what I read, the organization/founder is wanting to be called racist so it can rebut the charge.

Then you obviously keep misreading the article. The article clearly states 6 students have already complained to the university about Mr Sharps informal student union.

So whether your hypothesis is correct or not is a moot point. He already did receive the cries of "DATS RAYCISS!!!".

 

[Stagger Lee]

Again, my point was that the past and present is to blame for this. Many, if not most white unions are based upon supremacy and hate. Not many are simply about unity and ethnic pride.

If a white union was like many other ethnic unions, and was open to all, and didnt preach being better than everyone and tried to spring forth togetherness, then Id have no issue at all with said union.

Prove that is the case. I think white unions are mostly about opposing affirmative action, preferences for non-whites, quotas, double standards, PC, the way white males are depicted in the media, etc. And also it is just a reaction to all the non-white unions. If a non-white person supported those principles then they would be welcomed by white unions, but no non-whites support ending race based preferential treatment.

All you're really doing is claiming that if whites unite then it MUST be about hate and supremacy, but if other ethnics unite it MUST not be about hate and supremacy. That's wrong on both counts and actually racist itself by the same standards whites are held to.