"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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LostAndConfused

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I'm so confused right now (the username couldn't be more fitting), and I can't believe this happened. I've asked all my best friends and they couldn't understand it either, they couldn't understand how I could get tooled this bad.

Let me give you a background of the situation.

Theres this girl I really like, she's not the best looking girl (I'm dating better looking girls) but she has the best personality I've seen in a girl in my life. She's just really cool and I can talk to her about anything.

Anyways, she's dating other guys along with myself, and I'm dating other girls.

Theres this ONE guy she's dating though who she's really close to, lets call him Person X. X lives in another state, and if he lived in-state they would be in a relationship. X doesn't want her dating me but she does anyways.

Now, X eventually made her promise that she won't hook up with the other guys she dates (insecurity much?), but she hooks up with me anyways. However, she won't go farther than kissing. To be honest, I'm fine with that. I'm dating other girls, even though she stops me every time I escalate, I enjoy her company. Its gotten to the point where even if I put her in a *situation* where she'll be open to escalation, she'll stop me ahead of time.

I've dated her several times now and I talk to her every couple of days. I make sure not to talk to her too much or else I sound clingy. She knows im dating other girls, and she's fine with it.

Fast forward to today, I had a nice flirty conversation with her and then the next day I find out through a friend that she's now in a relationship with a completely different guy. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.


As i've said in my other threads, I want to learn from this experience, so what do you think happened here?

I dont want to lose any more sleep over this, I already told this other girl I was busy to go out with this chick and she does this shït to me! It probably sounds like a cliche by now but she was one of those "really special" girls.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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DonJuanit0

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Run away?!? I guess you didn't find the best personality in this girl... Soz :/
 

horaholic

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That is SSSSSOOOOOO typical. Dont even try to understand! Chicks just do that shyt, even when they get older.
 

Bible_Belt

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She's just not that into you...right now. Obviously, women are very flaky and fickle with their choices in men, and teenage girls are the worst. It happens, and you will not always understand very well. But a lot of times, a woman who chooses someone else will end that new relationship just as quickly and then end up single again. If you play it cool with her and don't act like it bothers you, then you keep your chances with her alive for later down the road.
 

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Another point to consider here is she might be a girl who wants to be in control when she's in a relationship. The fact that you are dating other girls might have been the whole issue for her here since she doesn't want to be "just another girl" and she knows you can get some elsewhere. I realize she's dating other guys, but that just shows you how illogical girls are, especially young ones.

Bet you the new dude is a chump and she'll come crawling back to you, just go on with your business and don't let her know that your bothered by it.




PIMP
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Daddy The Pimp

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Man they respond to their emotions .You can make her feel great for weeks , but here comes someone who makes her highly attracted to him IN THAT MOMENT , and she respond to him.

Don't be confused. You failed to tell her that YOU ARE THE PRIZE and that she is lucky to have you .

Anyways , forget her and move on. Thats the best way. I completely know how you feel , be you'll get over it as soon as you get another girl.

Also bear this in mind " if she cheats with you , she will probably cheat on you"
 

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So you had Oneitis
If you really did like her and felt she was one of a kind or whatever, why play bs games? Just put down your shield and go for her, and don't waste time
Oh wait, too late for that. Sorry tho bro
 

LostAndConfused

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Daddy The Pimp said:
Man they respond to their emotions .You can make her feel great for weeks , but here comes someone who makes her highly attracted to him IN THAT MOMENT , and she respond to him.

Don't be confused. You failed to tell her that YOU ARE THE PRIZE and that she is lucky to have you .

Anyways , forget her and move on. Thats the best way. I completely know how you feel , be you'll get over it as soon as you get another girl.
Thats true, she would even date someone who got her attracted in that moment, but would she actually commit to a relationship? That's whats confusing me, especially with the circumstances as they are.

And I have other girls but, to use the spinning plates analogy, I dropped all my plates in shock after this happened. I'll pick some of them back up.

DonJuanit0 said:
Run away?!? I guess you didn't find the best personality in this girl... Soz :/
I am beginning to realize, to my dismay that girls only have a good fvcking personality when they are really interested in you. Two faced whøres.... I'm becoming more misogynistic every day i swear....

Smartone84 said:
So you had Oneitis
If you really did like her and felt she was one of a kind or whatever, why play bs games? Just put down your shield and go for her, and don't waste time
Oh wait, too late for that. Sorry tho bro
I actually don't play games with girls anymore. Heres some more info on this chick, not that it matters much

After the first date with this girl she kept playing games with me, in fact she completely flaked on me, and I called her out on it hinting I have other options and I won't waste my time with her if she wants to flake like that.

She didn't flake on that next date.
 

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Smartone84 said:
So you had Oneitis
If you really did like her and felt she was one of a kind or whatever, why play bs games? Just put down your shield and go for her, and don't waste time
Oh wait, too late for that. Sorry tho bro
Don't miss this advice gentlemen. Confidence is the only game you need to score women.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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DonJuan11

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LostAndConfused said:
Theres this girl I really like, she's not the best looking girl (I'm dating better looking girls) but she has the best personality I've seen in a girl in my life. She's just really cool and I can talk to her about anything.

Anyways, she's dating other guys along with myself, and I'm dating other girls.

Theres this ONE guy she's dating though who she's really close to, lets call him Person X. X lives in another state, and if he lived in-state they would be in a relationship. X doesn't want her dating me but she does anyways.

Now, X eventually made her promise that she won't hook up with the other guys she dates (insecurity much?), but she hooks up with me anyways. However, she won't go farther than kissing. To be honest, I'm fine with that. I'm dating other girls, even though she stops me every time I escalate, I enjoy her company. Its gotten to the point where even if I put her in a *situation* where she'll be open to escalation, she'll stop me ahead of time.

I've dated her several times now and I talk to her every couple of days. I make sure not to talk to her too much or else I sound clingy. She knows im dating other girls, and she's fine with it.

Fast forward to today, I had a nice flirty conversation with her and then the next day I find out through a friend that she's now in a relationship with a completely different guy. COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.


As i've said in my other threads, I want to learn from this experience, so what do you think happened here?

I dont want to lose any more sleep over this, I already told this other girl I was busy to go out with this chick and she does this shït to me! It probably sounds like a cliche by now but she was one of those "really special" girls.
I'm not sure why you are so confused. You guys weren't exclusive. If you were exclusive I could understand your concern but since you weren't dating her and kissing other girls you were dating at the same time, it's not your concern.

You can't tell her "You can date and kiss and feel up other people but if you are in a relationship with the same person that you allow to feel you up and stick your tongue in your mouth, then that's where I draw the line." It doesn't matter if it's a different person that the person you originally thought, you weren't committed to her.
 

LostAndConfused

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DonJuan11 said:
I'm not sure why you are so confused. You guys weren't exclusive. If you were exclusive I could understand your concern but since you weren't dating her and kissing other girls you were dating at the same time, it's not your concern.

You can't tell her "You can date and kiss and feel up other people but if you are in a relationship with the same person that you allow to feel you up and stick your tongue in your mouth, then that's where I draw the line." It doesn't matter if it's a different person that the person you originally thought, you weren't committed to her.
Thats not the point, I don't care that she hooked up with other guys.

the fact is I got tooled because she wouldn't let me escalate things with her because of a "promise" and yet she does it with someone else. And I want to figure out why I got tooled like that.

Seduction has taught me to get more girls but in the end of the day I'll always be the beta who gets First Minute Resistance............

I've got 5 plates right now, will any of them let me fvck? nope.....

...and she's trying to talk to me still, why?
 
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