Gay sh*t in society.

[confusedstate]

I try not to pay attention to modern pop culture, but even when you avoid it, you can't help but notice some of it via commercials, word of mouth, internet and so on.

I thought 10 years ago was bad with all the boybands...but it seems it's only gotten worse...with shows like Glee, Jersey Shore...this whole Kardasian bs. I was flipping through the channels and they were advertising this kid's show on Nickelodeon with two boys that couldn't have been any older than 16 making out and trying to play it off when one of their mothers walked in.

Is this what society has become?

What really disgusts me is that I was reading a post on a forum where a girl said her boyfriend watched Glee with her even though he didn't want to and did it just to make her happy...so the p*ssified society is just creating p*ssified men.

You might say "These guys don't get girls"...but a lot of women like having a pushover of a boyfriend...and when she eventually gets sick of him, she gets the wrong impression when a real man comes into her life.

I'm not one of those homophobic guys. I'm more one of those "Don't ask, don't tell" guys...but it just seems that society and the media is preaching gayness.

 

[Packers2010]

thats tv for you man. besides OLD 70's British comedies. the news and sports center. i don't bother with TV

 

[Acq]

Boybands, girlbands, idiotic music and such are a product of marketing, teens are the easiest niche in marketing, and many products are created for them.

I live in Belgium and its commonly accepted here for homerseksuals to hold hands in public, which is good imo, its time the society begins to accept homosexuality. Im against gay adopting kids though or kissing in public, but imo, there is nothing wrong with being gay, nothing wrong at all.

 

[56andre]

I live in Belgium and its commonly accepted here for homerseksuals to hold hands in public, which is good imo, its time the society begins to accept homosexuality. Im against gay adopting kids though or kissing in public, but imo, there is nothing wrong with being gay, nothing wrong at all.

This guy is one of the reasons society is so fvcked

P.S. are you gay???

 

[Acq]

totally not.

but I never understood the reasons why some (obviously not very intelligent people) look down on gay guys. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual, nothing wrong at all. Imagine that YOU in your teens would discover that you cant experience attraction towards females, but you like being around guys.

Whats wrong about it ? Whats wrong with feeling the urge to have romantic/sexual attraction towards the same sex, if you are created by nature this way ?

56andre, Im not one of the reasons why the society is fvkced, however, the odds are high that you are

 

[SandHawk]

"Don't ask don't tell" IS being homophobic in my opinion. Why? Simply because it states "I DONT WANT TO KNOW LALALALALALALA".

Now, as for TV: Yea, it's utter sh*t, and you know what the solution is? You don't watch TV. There are plenty more interesting activities I can think of that do not turn you into a lardtub and a braindead c*ckgobbler.

As for the whole p*ussified society: This is what you get when you reform your educational system to be mostly ran by women. Look at schools; Most of the teachers are female, and while that is fine, there is a severe lack of masculine role models in schools. And because female teachers don't know how to handle boys, they turn the boys into girls as much as they can. This is then followed up by ads, TV shows and other media that puts an emphasize of femininity and voila, your whole society goes to hell in a handbasket.

I know damn well that my kids will go to a boys-only school with mostly male teachers that have been neutered.

 

[Acq]

General hatred/unacceptance towards homosexuality is a product of many centuries of religious supression of all of us. It was religion which kept telling us through the bible/kuran/torah that being gay is "wrong", "pathetic", "unworthy" and while Europe and most parts of the USA were able to abandon something as idiotic as "religion", some ideas of religion are still very much alive, unfortunately.

 

[perseverance]

I think every country in the world should introduce national service into the nations military for 16 year old males until the age of 20. Where they can learn vital lessons for life. The reason most males are acting feminine these days is because we live in a "wrap him up in cotton wool" society.

Though it is worth mentioning that in deeply masculine societies, there's deep seeded homosexuality. Homosexuality is nothing new. In fact in the Roman Empire it was actively encouraged. Most Roman Soldiers would engage in homosexuality with other Soldiers in the baths of Rome and elsewhere. Women in Roman society were seen as products to further the expansive grip of Rome.

 

[confusedstate]

My problem is more so with flamboyancy and fruitiness and emasculinity. I'm a very emotional guy, but I still watch sports, shoot the sh*t with the guys, have male role models and so on.

My problem is when girlfriends try to change their boyfriend into some p*ssy and try to get him to watch that Glee sh*t...or homosexual men that prance around or check you out.

Homosexuality in and of itself I don't have a problem as long as they don't hit on me. The problem is the behavior that comes with some of them. (And no I'm not a hypocrite, I don't like lesbianism in any form either. I suppose it would be attractive to see a couple girls my type make out...but I don't look at lesbian porn or dream of catfights or anything.)

I don't care about gay couples...even holding hands in public...it's the extra sh*t and society preaching it and girlfriends trying to integrate their guys into it.

 

[perseverance]

Listen, these guys have a choice whether or not they watch Glee or not.

If it was me, I'd get up and leave the room and listen to Dub-step or some Grime from the streets of London Town. A guy doesn't have to be glued to his woman's hip, nor watch all these stupid shows she watches. He does so through choice. Not because society tells him too.

Society tells me not to binge drink or smoke, yet I do both. Society tells me that spinning plates makes me a player, but I spin plates sometimes and I'm no player. These men listen to society because they choose to do so. Don't blame homosexuality through media outlets for the emasculation of man, blame men themselves for allowing it to happen in the first place.

 

[56andre]

totally not.

but I never understood the reasons why some (obviously not very intelligent people) look down on gay guys. There is nothing wrong with being homosexual, nothing wrong at all. Imagine that YOU in your teens would discover that you cant experience attraction towards females, but you like being around guys.

Whats wrong about it ? Whats wrong with feeling the urge to have romantic/sexual attraction towards the same sex, if you are created by nature this way ?

56andre, Im not one of the reasons why the society is fvkced, however, the odds are high that you are

Please stop, I’m going to through up...

No I don’t have hatred towards gays, I just don’t accept it

What I think is wrong though is gay activists like you are telling me what I should think & accept.

I don't accept it & there is nothing wrong with that

Now I think you are the one with the problem with me accepting the correct way nature should be wired

No I won’t bend over for you gay activists & society

I refuse to be raped up the @ss with that modern pop culture bull$hit

 

[Iceberg]

I don't care about gay couples...even holding hands in public...it's the extra sh*t and society preaching it and girlfriends trying to integrate their guys into it.

I've never heard of a girl trying to integrate their men into being gay or whatever you're trying to say . It doesn't even make sense. Women asking men to watch chick flicks or plays or ballets? That's not new. It's been going on since like....forever.

If girls watch girly things, it's normal for them to ask the men in their lives to be a part of it. It's also normal for the men to say "no". I really don't see this as a NEW plague on society. Humans are humans. There's nothing new to us.

 

[Acq]

No I don’t have hatred towards gays, I just don’t accept it

its your choice, but I dont respect it, because its not a very smart choice. Nature creates homosexuals, always has and forever will, there is nothing wrong with it, just like nature creates blond and brunette chicks.

What I think is wrong though is gay activists like you are telling me what I should think & accept.

I'm not a gay activist, I'm just a realist. A certain part of any society is gay and there is no reason to supress that part. not a single reason, they have the same rights as you and me, they are people too.

I refuse to be raped up the @ss with that modern pop culture bull$hit

you are entitled to have an opinion about the culture, its your right to do so. if you want to try to change something, go to policits, use democracy to get elected and use your future power to try to change anything you want, good luck

 

[56andre]

I'm not a gay activist

Well then why are you preaching like one???

 

[Acq]

Well then why are you preaching like one???

as I said, my brain tells me that there is nothing wrong with gays, but my brain also tells me that there is something wrong with people who refuse to accept reality and live according to legacy of religious hate.

 

[loveshogun]

I read this whole thread, but I couldn't shake the irony that the OP's handle is "Confusedstate" and this thread is about homo culture. Ha!

All I have to say about that is the 80s' androgyny culture is back this decade. Tight jeans (even on dudes), crazy hair, aviators. Come on now - Lady Gaga is popular. Would she have been in the 90s? Nope. People woulda thought she was a crazy gremlin b*tch. They still do today, but right now it's "cool."

The 2005s-2015s are basically a rerun of the 80s with less neon colors. Look at the movies that have been coming out - Transformers, GI Joe, Tron... hell, they're even making a rock'em sock'em robots movie.

We've all seen this before.

I think this is because everyone who was growing up in the 80s is now at the age where they actually have executive influence in the media board rooms of America. This is just my theory.

 

[Iceberg]

Please stop, I’m going to through up...

No I don’t have hatred towards gays, I just don’t accept it

What I think is wrong though is gay activists like you are telling me what I should think & accept.

I don't accept it & there is nothing wrong with that

What's not to accept? I mean, it exists. It's like not accepting trees or skyscrapers or cancer.

Did you choose to like women? Did you have 50/50 feelings for men and women and make a conscious choice to go with women? No, right...you always liked women. So why do you think sexuality is a choice for these people? It's better to be openly gay than to try to hide yourself, marry a woman, have kids, and then have the cops catch you banging dudes in a bathroom stall. I've always liked girls. They've always like guys. Neither of us had a choice.

I'm not trying to change your view. I really don't care. I'm just debating for the sake of debate.

I read this whole thread, but I couldn't shake the irony that the OP's handle is "Confusedstate" and this thread is about homo culture. Ha!

All I have to say about that is the 80s' androgyny culture is back this decade. Tight jeans (even on dudes), crazy hair, aviators. Come on now -.

Hell, we can take it back further than the 80's. America's founding fathers wore powdered wigs and blush for christ's sake....

 

[56andre]

Oh ye, as for the nature thing, nature doesn’t create homosexuals by default, just like it doesn't create retards by default

 

[confusedstate]

My point wasn't that society forces men to do things they don't want to do...but that it doesn't promote being a man...at least in the youth driven shows and programs.

My other separate point is that a lot of men are so desperate to have female acceptance of any kind, because society has told them that getting any girlfriend is the key to life...that they put up with bs just to say "i'm not single.
" For those of you who have seen the movie School Of Rock...the relationship between Jack Black's roommate and Sarah Silverman...there are many couples like that out there...where the guy is the woman's complete b*tch.

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

Oh ye, as for the nature thing, nature doesn’t create homosexuals by default, just like it doesn't create retards by default

So you also "don't accept" mentally handicapped people?

I'm not saying that gay is NORMAL. But I'll say that gay wasn't a choice for those guys, and if they could have been born normal, they'd probably choose that over being hated.

It just doesn't make sense to judge someone over something they never had control over.