"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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gauge this girl's IL please

WishIWas

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here's the short version of the story.

girl asked me out. we went out last weekend, had a great time, no kiss because she was sick. i also had the chance to kiss her the weekend before, but didn't. she was very open when i called her last week, and at the end of the date we decided to hang out this weekend.

she was absent on monday, no school on tuesday. so, i hadn't talked to her since saturday. wednesday i was real stressed so i wasn't very friendly to her. i called her weds about making plans for the weekend, and she didn't pick up. i left a brief message, and she never called me back (she did the first time i called her).

so, thursday morning i saw her and talked to her for a few minutes, and asked her out for this weekend. she said "ok, let me check my schedule." later on that day we didn't talk much but she saw me in the hallway and held my hand for a few seconds as she passed me (she initiated).

today when i saw her we talked for a few minutes. i had to go, so i said "so i'll see you sunday then." and she said "if i can. i have to call you about that." at this point i made a vow not to mention it to her or call her again until hearing from her.

she rode my bus home because she's going to a friend's house who lives near me. she walked me home, then initiated a hug because "i helped her find her way." she then said she'd call me later about sunday. as i went up to my door i caught her looking back at me.

i kind of feel like she's lost interest. i expect she won't call me at all, or she'll call with a lame excuse.

help please! please don't just view this thread and don't answer.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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i should mention that twice this year that i know of guys have asked her out and she's had no problem saying nooooo. plus she had a great time last week when we went out. do you think her excuse of possibly not being able to go out is legit?
 

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Her IL is high enough to kiss you. But you seem like you want to wait for HER to kiss YOU.

WTF is wrong with you man? When she says: "I don't know about sunday" you ask for more info. "what do you have on sunday?"

Then she tells you, you ask more. Get more info to work with.

Your question is basically this:

"I am acting uninterested, but this hot chick asks me out, takes my hand and hugs me. Does she like me? What do I do?" :)
 

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Calm down. shes just one girl..... if the both of you are interested you'll be going out. if not you wont. Dont stress over it. You have passed the ball into her court and now you have to play the waiting game. dont break under the pressure, just go on and have a good time.
 

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You may not be an AFC, but you are having a relapse. I think Ice Cold hit this on the head. You need to wake up and me a man. It is rare that a girl will force herself onto a date with you. You gotta put the effort in and LEAD her, otherwise this date is doomed to never occur.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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yeah, thanks.

in retrospect, now I should have given her a light kiss...but I FVCKING HATE COLDS and i didn't want to get sick.

erm...so it would have been appropriate to kiss her when she hugged me goodbye yesterday?

i'm not used to being this into a girl. normally i go on one date and lose interest. this is new to me.
 
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