Gatti vs Mayweather

[Reyaj]

Ok I know its a little premature to be writing this, and hopefully by the time the fight comes around this thread will be bumped up.

But I mean come on... to me the outcome of this fight is obvious

Mayweather will outbox Gatti, so bad. He will land punch after punch, move well... could even be more target practice than when Gatti fought Oscar

The fight will probably be stopped on cuts however if they let Gatti go into the late rounds, he is going to be pretty messed up like Diego Corrales was after enduring those rounds of punishment at the hands of Mayweather.


Gatti is overrated, I am sorry to say. But he sure is exciting, yet I don't know for how long if he keeps up this new boxing mentality via Buddy McGirt

 

[Reyaj]

oh and Fernando Vargas looked like **** this weekend. He better hope he doesn't fight Mayorga

 

[CLOONEY]

I think a lot of factors will influence this fight. Firstly, Gatti is only NOW at his prime. He has better footwork, is faster, is aware of the killzone a hell of a lot more, and most importantly, his body attack is absolutely brutal. Only a rock like Ward can not be moved by such ferocious body attack.

Secondly, it is reported that Gatti has been hitting the club scene a LOT of late. He is known for his partying and the last time he went through this phase, he hit rock bottom in his career.

Thirdly, Mayweather is not hard to hit with body punches when you trap him on the ropes, he leaves his body open to right hooks to the body, and I am sure Gatti will accomadate him.

Fourthly, Gatti has not been stopped on Cuts since the Manfredy fight, which was a long long time ago, if my memory serves me correct. Check boxrec.com if you want to double check.

Fifthly, Mayweather is VERY hard to hit, probably the hardest since Pernell Whitaker and Roy Jones, although then again, Mayweather has one HUGE flaw in his defence. When he does come in and throw his combinations, he lets his hands fly and stands infront of you. I am sure Buddy will point this out to Gatti and try to get Gatti to launch his own right or thunderout left on the counter.

All in all, yes, if this decision goes to the cards, it is nearly assured Mayweather will take it. Although I give Gatti a pretty solid chance at taking a KO in this fight. What goes up, must come down, Mayweather is only a man, and like all men in boxing history, it is very possible for him to loose.

Most of the boxing world says this will be a one sided shutout for Mayweather, but you definately cant count Gatti out. Will be a great great fight to watch.

Coralles Castillo up next, Castillo by UD.

 

[CLOONEY]

Oh yeah, and Vargas did look like crap, but then again, it was only a tune up and afterall it wasnt like he fought a bum. The guy is top10 in the division. But then again, the middleweight division is pathetic and has been for the last decade +

 

[Reyaj]

Clooney, your last few fight predictions have been off!

Anyway IMO, Gatti's only chance against Mayweather is to be the Gatti of old and go right at him! Buddy has Gatti trying to box and it isn't going to work against possibly the best P4P fighter right now like Mayweather. If Gatti does box, Floyd will pick him apart big time, and we both know that.

You say Gatti is in the prime of his career right now, that maybe so but I am honestly still not impressed with him. What has he really done??? Yeah he fought those battles with Mickey Ward, but how good is Mickey Ward anyway, look at how many losses he had. Then yeah, he knocks out Leonard Dorin and James Leija, but these are people he had a natural size advantage against. Just how you pick on Hopkins for fighting smaller guys, thats exactly what Gatti did in order to look good.

He is an attraction, but in the grand scheme things, he really is just a good/above average fighter. I really don't feel he belongs in the same ring as Floyd IMO

But yeah if Gatti does have at least a puncher's chance, he has to go right at Floyd, and I mean all night. The only person Floyd has ever had trouble with is Jose Luis Castillo, and that is exactly what he did, go right at him all night...

Anyway, I think Fernando gets knocked out against the next big puncher he faces. He looked a little bothered not to go for the kill against Jovial, and lets face it, my grandmother punches harder than Jovial lol

 

[CLOONEY]

I know!! I hardly got a pick wrong for about a year, now I cant pick one!

I agree, Mayweather is a much better fighter than Gatti. Anyone can see that. Mayweather is a great fighter. Gatti is just a good champion.

As far as Gatti picking on smaller guys, Gatti started out at super-feather if my memory serves me correct. This is his 3rd division, how is that picking on smaller guys? BHOP started at middle and fought a former super feather. That is like Gatti staying at super-feather and fighting a flyweight! HUGE difference! I dont however, rate Gatti that high. I have BHOP much higher in an all-time perspective. I only get on him cause I want him to make competitive fights.

Other than that I agree with you, Gatti has to go forward and impose himself upon Floyd. Let his gloves fly. He doesnt have a big chance, but he sure does have a chance.

As far as Vargas, yeah, he will be KOd whenever he fights a big puncher. I want to see a Quartey v Mayorga showdown at middle. That would be awesome!

 

[CLOONEY]

Who did you take in Coralles V Castillo again? The closer this fight gets, the more sure I am Castillo will upset him. Castillo has a great style to beat Coralles.

 

[Reyaj]

Corrales by TKO

Castillo is one tough cookie, but Corrales is the more athletic and harder hitter.

Castillo won't ever quit, so either the ref,ring doctor, or his corner will stop it.

If not definitely Corrales by dec.

 

[Reyaj]

Ok time to revitalize this thread!


I still stand with my prediction, unless the fight is fixed Mayweather should tool Gatti!


The thing that makes it worse is that Gatti may have a puncher's chance, but this new style of him trying to box would be the worst thing he can do against Floyd. His only chance is to go right at him and pressure him as much as he can, similar to what Jose Luis Castillio did (he came the closest to beating Floyd)

If Gatti just stands there and thinks he can box, he is going to get picked apart!!!!

I hope this is an exciting fight and Gatti does in fact go right at Floyd like a mack truck! If he doesn't, this thing is getting stopped on cuts in the Third Round!


My prediction?

Mayweather by TKO

 

[CLOONEY]

I think another factor in this fight could be that Mayweather will hurt Gatti more than people expect. Mayweather looks more powerful at 140 than he did at his lighter weights. A very surprising occurance!

I will take Mayweather by TKO about round 8. Gatti tires during fights, and Maywaether is an animal down the stretch.

Mayweather TKO8

 

[CLOONEY]

Although, that being said, these are probably my 2 favourite fighters in boxing today, so either one win, and I am happy. Although I would like to see Mayweather win, he is possibly one of the greatest I have seen in my life, and would make some great fights with some of the top guys, especially a judah fight at 147 would be incredible to watch!

 

[Reyaj]

Yeah Mayweather is the best P4P right now IMHO

The lighter divisions are going to be so exciting, look at these names we have right now


Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Diego Corrales
Zab Judah
Ricky Hatton
Miguel Cotto


Who will emerge as the best when its all said and done?

 

[MindOverMatter]

Even tho I know Mayweather will win, I want Gatti to beat him. I don't want Mayweather to win for the same reason I don't want Terrel Owens or Randy Moss sporting Superbowl rings. If Mayweather wins (and he will), he'll never stfu.

 

[CLOONEY]

Originally posted by Jayer
Yeah Mayweather is the best P4P right now IMHO

The lighter divisions are going to be so exciting, look at these names we have right now


Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Diego Corrales
Zab Judah
Ricky Hatton
Miguel Cotto


Who will emerge as the best when its all said and done?

Oscar De La Hoya (question mark)
Kostya Tszyu (question mark)
Junior Witter
Antonio Margarito
Shane Mosley
Vernon Forrest (question mark)

Man, the list goes on and on from junior welter to welter. Noone will emerge the best because of politics. This is the difference between the days of Ray Robinson and the current crop of fighters. Not to mention styles make fights, so unless we get an all-timer like Ray Robinson again, I am sure not one of these guys can beat ALL of the others.

 

[Reyaj]

I'd say Floyd might be able too.

Speaking of which he made a good point at his press conference.

He's like "I think of myself as a Sugar Ray Leonard" but is Gatti on the level of a "Roberto Duran" ?


Mayweather looked ripped.


I am actually hoping I'm wrong on this one and its not as one sided as I think.

 

[CLOONEY]

Thats a VERY big might. Does he have the power to stop Zab? Doubt it! Zab on his game would be a very tough chess match. Floyd is more skilled, but Zab is faster and more powerful.

Forrest at welter? Man, HUGE size disadvantage and power disadvantage. Could end in one punch.

DLH V Mayweather at welter, would be a tough night at the office, I would favour DLH. Top skills and a far bigger fighter at welter.

Hatton would really rough him up, would be a very similar fight to Castillo (who gave Floyd trouble), but Hatton is even bigger and stronger!

These, style wise, are probably his hardest fights. Do I see him winning all of them? A VERY small possibility. First lets wait to see how his whiskers hold up when tagged with a Gatti full force punch! Corley had him seriously rocked a couple of times in that fight! And Corley doesnt punch nearly as hard as some of the guys mentioned above!

Mayweather definately has the skills to be one of the greatest fighters ever, but does he possess what all legends of the rings possess, a granite chin!!!?? Still untested IMHO.

 

[Reyaj]

Yep, this one went just as I thought.

 

[undesputable]

you got to give it to mayweather....he talks the talk and walks the walk. if he would have lost i would have thought hes the biggest loser ever, but he won so hes the ****, bc most ppl when they talk that much crap they end up loosing.

 

[CLOONEY]

Yeah, went how most thought. Would have liked to see Gatti land a big shot though, but need a more skilled heavy puncher to do that. He also should have gone to the body instead of head hunting!

Oh well, that is several in a row now. Which big fight next?

 

[Reyaj]

I say Mayweather will fight one more top guy, whether it be Cotto or Hatton. If he wins....

This will set up the stage for De La Hoya vs Mayweather, which will be one of the biggest bouts in the history of the sport.

This is assuming Oscar can beat some other top guy this year. With his whole promotion gig, I don't know how motivated he is anymore.