"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Gaming a girl that a popular guy is gaming

Brighty

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Alright, let me just say that I use the term popular loosely. I mean the guy who hangs out with the jocks. I'm a pretty popular kid, but I don't hang out with the jock social circle save for one or two people, otherwise I probably have more quality friends than he does.

Anyway, there's this girl that I've been flirting with and then withdrawing for the past week and she's going ga-ga over it. Everything will work out great, if I don't end up c-blocking myself. Because I've got it hammered into my head that the jock social circle has got first pick of the hot girls (I mean, they have had it for the past three years, why shouldn't they? Wrong.) and now that I've found out that they're talking (well, the girl still likes me, so her friend says) then I feel as though I'm going to be naturally nervous or insecure when I'm talking to her now, knowing that I'm going to have to compete with a "popular" kid. Or, I could be completely blowing this out of proportion, which I probably am. But I can't let myself psyche myself out, so I'm wondering what your guys' opinions are on it.

How important is popularity to a girl? Me and this guy are both tall, good looking, and we're both confident. The only advantage he has over me is that he was friends with her first and that he hangs out with the popular kids (which for some reason I feel makes him better than me), but I'm actually doing something with my life (I placed first place in Colorado in a film competition and I'm going to pursue that, has already gotten me some tail) and he's an idiot as most jocks are. Girls are in abundance for both of us. It all comes down to me holding true to my principals back two years ago where I stood up for a kid getting picked on by the jocks and got into a fight with one of the jocks and kicked the **** out of him because they're a bunch of tools. That's basically the reason why I'm not in with that crowd, although at times I wonder if I should've taken the plunge for more ass.

I need to not psyche myself out guys, if you guys have any words of encouragement or war stories or any advice on the matter, let that **** rip, I could definitely use it. My main concern is just not letting my mind blow it out of proportion. But, it's really oh well, if I botch this up somehow, I've got a nice lineup of other girls I'm looking at right now anyway. But, right now, I want her, and I'm going to get her.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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BlakeW5

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You've already answered your own question.... don't psyche yourself out.

But some honest truth. Popularity does matter, especially in highschool. You'd be hard pressed to find a highschool girl that doesn't want to be popular. If you do find one it's just usually they don't want to be popular in certain circles. You did say you're using the term popular loosely. You're popular in your own circles (as you say). You make it sound like he just associates with the popular jock kids. Association doesn't make one popular, but it doesn't hurt either.

But like you said, don't c*ckblock yourself, you're getting in your own head here. Don't trash talk the guy, because if she does like him/friends with him she'll just defend him which is counterproductive. If she really does still like you (not saying she doesn't) you'll do just fine. Basically, if what you're already doing is working keep it up. Don't try to fix things that aren't broken.

You'll do just fine. Just remember, you've still got other girls, even if this one doesn't pan out
 

jeffthechef

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i asked a question like this earlier...i would go on facebook and try to get all the info i could on the girl..and then i saw who she was tlaking to and i deterred myself from trying... i would describe my popularity likes yours but honestly..fuk popularity...as long as you're not completely friendless or perverted or lack confidence..if you try..and she's somewhat attrafcted to you...you have a chance

make sure you read the dj bible though..i always get the feeling a girl's attracted and i have a 9:1 ratio-ish....the only thing was i lacked the confidence to talk to them or check em out without turning away when they caught me...or smile which is definitely important...

confidence and the tiniest bit of popularity and a little attraction is all you need
 

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Brighty said:
Alright, let me just say that I use the term popular loosely. I mean the guy who hangs out with the jocks. I'm a pretty popular kid, but I don't hang out with the jock social circle save for one or two people, otherwise I probably have more quality friends than he does.

Anyway, there's this girl that I've been flirting with and then withdrawing for the past week and she's going ga-ga over it. Everything will work out great, if I don't end up c-blocking myself. Because I've got it hammered into my head that the jock social circle has got first pick of the hot girls (I mean, they have had it for the past three years, why shouldn't they? Wrong.) and now that I've found out that they're talking (well, the girl still likes me, so her friend says) then I feel as though I'm going to be naturally nervous or insecure when I'm talking to her now, knowing that I'm going to have to compete with a "popular" kid. Or, I could be completely blowing this out of proportion, which I probably am. But I can't let myself psyche myself out, so I'm wondering what your guys' opinions are on it.

How important is popularity to a girl? Me and this guy are both tall, good looking, and we're both confident. The only advantage he has over me is that he was friends with her first and that he hangs out with the popular kids (which for some reason I feel makes him better than me), but I'm actually doing something with my life (I placed first place in Colorado in a film competition and I'm going to pursue that, has already gotten me some tail) and he's an idiot as most jocks are. Girls are in abundance for both of us. It all comes down to me holding true to my principals back two years ago where I stood up for a kid getting picked on by the jocks and got into a fight with one of the jocks and kicked the **** out of him because they're a bunch of tools. That's basically the reason why I'm not in with that crowd, although at times I wonder if I should've taken the plunge for more ass.

I need to not psyche myself out guys, if you guys have any words of encouragement or war stories or any advice on the matter, let that **** rip, I could definitely use it. My main concern is just not letting my mind blow it out of proportion. But, it's really oh well, if I botch this up somehow, I've got a nice lineup of other girls I'm looking at right now anyway. But, right now, I want her, and I'm going to get her.
Okay....this happened to me when i was in school on more than one occasion, actually at my transitional stage of waking up and taking control of my life... but thats another story.

The strategies i used were as follows, they are all underhanded so i apologise in advance if they upset anyones sensibilities:
Im gonna suggest that you split boyfriend and girlfriend up inorder for you to get the girl.
You're going to prey on vulnerability and the want to be "mature"
1) Become popular yourself. Schoolgirls love popularity and also this percieved alpha male quality.
2) This girl likes you, massive plus, get her alone, in a place where she feels comfortable and talk about relationships. Let her bring up the current relationship. Then talk to her about the faults within this current relationship and magnify them. Magnify them through the fact that you disagree with how her boyfriend is treating her, and in a "mature" relationship with a mature person, she would be treated far more differently. Don't say that you would treat her better, just make sure she knows that you would and could.
3) Make friends with her girlfriends, boyfriends have to be accepted into the girlfriends social group, sorta like an interview you have to pass.
The final advice i can give you is:

Make her feel special- this means charm, the ability to give delight. More on an emotional level than physical.
Be unforgetable- Do something every week, something that is thoughtful and unexpected, nothing big, just something on a personal, private level showing you're a nice, sensitive person.

Anyway hope this helps and let war commence.

And remember, with face of a saint and the heart of a sinner, any angel can be yours.


Adrian
 

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I didn't read the thread, but the title seems G A Y! Popular guy?! :crackup: That's something stupid kids think they are on MTV shows!

No one is really popular, it's all in your head and how you think. A REAL ALPHA MALE could go into that college, and if someone came to him and said : Oh, you see him? That's John. He's popular. The alpha male would look at him and he would burst laughing and think "Oh my you guys are messed up!".

And let me tell you, someone who goes around college thinking he is the men, and isn't friendly, has a ****y atitude about him, and has that aura of a mix of stupidity and arrogance, is NOT a alpha male, even if he has some status, deep inside he's nothing better then an idiot, remember that! (Yeah, because real alpha males are confident, not arrogant, and friendly, not stupid. And they're also sort of humble.)

A REAL ALPHA MALE doesn't even care about being alpha, he just is genuinly not insecure! So don't even "compete", or seek for approval. You may even win, or get the girl, but it's just not right. The real men doesn't get girls because he's popular, because he dresses well and has the nicest car, but it's because he is different then the others, and he gets girls because of one simple reason, he is sociable! :up: People want to be around him, because he is a fun guy to be with, and that's it. He could care less about being popular or anything like that.

Think about this in this way- If you were a girl, would you rather hang out with someone because he's popular, or because because he'e sociable and fun, even if nobody knows who he is? (Not for long btw).

And train yourself to thinking something like this- You're the great catch, you're cool, sociable, but you're not ****y or stupid.(But also be true to yourself. If you think you're not this things, work in that). If you don't know someone, you don't start juding them ASAP, but you treat everyone the same, no matter if they're the most popular kid of school, or the most hated, until you figure out their personality. You don't have to proove yourself to people... Rather people prove themselves to YOU, because YOU are the don juan, and you're working in being a man, even if you're not one, you'll be one one day- and if some girl doesn't want to be with you, it's her loss! :p

By the way, book o pook, lesson four!
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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