"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Gaming a chick at the club... and taking her home in one night

darkjedi

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Sup all! Just got home from the club and after gaming this chick I met at the club, this thought ran through my mind even as I was talking to this chick and pulled her number. The possibility of pulling her from the club to my place and well you know the rest...

So, I started to wonder how many people are actually consistently successful with this or even have done it more than a few times.

So, as the title states. Have you ever done this? How many times or how often have you done it. How did you do it or how would you do it?

Basically just trying to get a feel on if it's more of a right place right time kind of deal or is there really some gaming to it? People always talk about doing it, but I never see anyone actually pull it off.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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darkjedi said:
Sup all! Just got home from the club and after gaming this chick I met at the club, this thought ran through my mind even as I was talking to this chick and pulled her number. The possibility of pulling her from the club to my place and well you know the rest...

So, I started to wonder how many people are actually consistently successful with this or even have done it more than a few times.

So, as the title states. Have you ever done this? How many times or how often have you done it. How did you do it or how would you do it?

Basically just trying to get a feel on if it's more of a right place right time kind of deal or is there really some gaming to it? People always talk about doing it, but I never see anyone actually pull it off.
gaming is always part of it, you can not take a girl home from a club thinking seriously that she actually likes you in terms of boyfriend material. mainly because either she or you or both are drunk :p

for me it's simple I'm a bartender so I have certain advantages in having the girls come to me instead of me going to them and sometimes I give them extra drinks sometimes I enter conversations sometimes I just point a girl to go towards the corner of the bar where I'll go over and kiss her. simply because I don't really care about their opinion.

just having fun while earning some extra cash on the weekend job :cool:
 

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look up the apocalypse opener. build up the balls to pull it off successfully and you'll be the man of the club.
 

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In terms of the relevant proportion of women that I have slept with; this is mostly what I do.

The first important thing is to select the right club; I normally go to clubs with loads of university students as they are more into ONS or are more likely to go for a ONS anyhow. Also, you get more attractive single women (or women in very casual relationships). Too classy a club and it can be more difficult.

The main thing I do is either:
1) Get chatting to a women at the bar, in a seated area or outside whilst having a cigarette and then get them to come on the dance floor and dance with them

or

2) Whilst on the dance floor, try to catch the eye of a girl I like the look of, smile and if they look interested, either go over and say 'Hi, I'm AlanB' (greatest chat-up line ever) or just start dancing with them.

Once I've done that I'll try to get them kissing and close-dancing in the club and judging how that goes, I'll either ask them if they want to come back for a drink (very handy for me as I live in a town centre near clubs so it is often easier to get girls to come round when we can walk there), suggest swapping numbers or if it doesn't look like there is enough interest I'll just say my goodbyes.

There are loads of other techniques you can slot in, e.g. push-pull, whilst dancing with the girl you are after, occaisionally break off and dance with her friends or some other girl.
 

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Yes, this happens all the time. I pulled two girls home last week. You have to be direct about your intentions. Don't be ashamed of wanting to take her home and **** her. Don't try to force it on her, but create some strong sexual frames and do a lot of leading. I like to say things like "If no one was here right now, you have no idea what I would do to you." I like to reframe things she says as sexual advances towards me. For instance, "don't think just because you bought me a drink means I'm going home with you. You silly slut." *spank her ass* If you're feeling really bold and you can tell you've put attraction through the roof, you can say something like, "OK, you have a decision to make: we can **** in the bathroom, or you can come home with me."

Be bold. And be sure to plan for logistics. If she's with friends, make sure they trust you.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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+1 Entropy...you Definitely sound like a guy with really good game.

Oh wait, i just saw ur sig...haha....that explains it!
 

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jamescr73 said:
look up the apocalypse opener. build up the balls to pull it off successfully and you'll be the man of the club.
Very interesting, but I think that this will not work if you are gaming chicks at a more upscale, classy club which I've been going to lately. I could very well see this working otherwise and will have to give this a shot.
 

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AlanB said:
In terms of the relevant proportion of women that I have slept with; this is mostly what I do.

The first important thing is to select the right club; I normally go to clubs with loads of university students as they are more into ONS or are more likely to go for a ONS anyhow. Also, you get more attractive single women (or women in very casual relationships). Too classy a club and it can be more difficult.

The main thing I do is either:
1) Get chatting to a women at the bar, in a seated area or outside whilst having a cigarette and then get them to come on the dance floor and dance with them

or

2) Whilst on the dance floor, try to catch the eye of a girl I like the look of, smile and if they look interested, either go over and say 'Hi, I'm AlanB' (greatest chat-up line ever) or just start dancing with them.

Once I've done that I'll try to get them kissing and close-dancing in the club and judging how that goes, I'll either ask them if they want to come back for a drink (very handy for me as I live in a town centre near clubs so it is often easier to get girls to come round when we can walk there), suggest swapping numbers or if it doesn't look like there is enough interest I'll just say my goodbyes.

There are loads of other techniques you can slot in, e.g. push-pull, whilst dancing with the girl you are after, occaisionally break off and dance with her friends or some other girl.
This is the typical course of action I see most guys take at the club. The problem I see and encounter as well is that after you get them isolated, you usually don't have enough time to build up rapport and comfort to be able to close them before her friends come back or she says "I have to go find my friends."

Also, when gaming chicks at the bar or sitting outside on the patio at a club, they usually are not ready to go to the dance floor, so it will be that much harder to get them to leave with you.
 

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Entropy4 said:
Yes, this happens all the time. I pulled two girls home last week. You have to be direct about your intentions. Don't be ashamed of wanting to take her home and **** her. Don't try to force it on her, but create some strong sexual frames and do a lot of leading. I like to say things like "If no one was here right now, you have no idea what I would do to you." I like to reframe things she says as sexual advances towards me. For instance, "don't think just because you bought me a drink means I'm going home with you. You silly slut." *spank her ass* If you're feeling really bold and you can tell you've put attraction through the roof, you can say something like, "OK, you have a decision to make: we can **** in the bathroom, or you can come home with me."

Be bold. And be sure to plan for logistics. If she's with friends, make sure they trust you.
I tried this last night... her ASD was keeping me from being successful. And of course... her friends the blockers.
 

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darkjedi said:
This is the typical course of action I see most guys take at the club. The problem I see and encounter as well is that after you get them isolated, you usually don't have enough time to build up rapport and comfort to be able to close them before her friends come back or she says "I have to go find my friends."

Also, when gaming chicks at the bar or sitting outside on the patio at a club, they usually are not ready to go to the dance floor, so it will be that much harder to get them to leave with you.
It depends, the places I go to are great because ONS are expected and girls there are more comfortable with going back with guys they have just met. Sometimes, chatting with their friends and introducing your friends to them at some point helps too.

For the second thing, you just chat with them for longer and if they really aren't ready to go dance, you can just say, I'll see you later on and find them again when they come to the dance floor. In the UK, people only really go out of clubs to smoke, so if your outside, people go straight back in after their cigarette.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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