"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Gaming A Celebrity..Can It Be Done?

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If a celebrity or some kind of public figure (a single woman, obviously) who you find REALLY attractive were to appear at one of your local malls to sign autographs for a line of adoring fans, and YOU saw this as an opportunity to woo her, COULD you do it?

Here's the scenario: you're next in line to get your book or whatever item signed by this hot woman, a line of hundreds of people are behind you, her security is nearby, and behind a table, she looks at you with a smile, awaiting for a monotonous friendly comment praising how cool she is and how much of an honor it is to meet her

Is it possible to have game SHARP enough to impress..and if so, WHAT form would that game take? How would you, a lone man with no social proof or anything, conjure up the seduction skill to get her, a celebrity woman who not only gets hit on thousands of times per day but has masturbation-worthy pictures online, to even consider you?


Just a random question I was asked by a friend earlier.

Would the gift of gab work..or is this a situation reserved for only the most seasoned of PUAs?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I dont know if you have noticed but most celebritys date other celebritys and there is a reason for that. Girls like to date someone on their own level just like a doctor girl will not date a trash man. A girl making 60 million dollars a year will not date someone making 20 000 dollars a year.

My answer to your question would have to be NO. If it was some of the more experienced guys like Mystery gaming her than possibly but even his chances wouldnt be good when there is 1000 people in line and he is trying to get a autograph from her already making her the prize. On top of that there is security there watching your every move. On top of that she would have to give her number to you infront of that many people which could possibly end up in the Magazine,TV, Youtube. So even someone like Mystery has about 10% chance IMO and people like us have no chance. If you could get her by herself than there is a posibility.
 

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One of my friends was getting an autograph from a famous model around the area (I think it was Lisa Fleming, google her hot as fvck) and then he casually asked her to take a picture with him. He put his arm around her and then she took his hand and let him touch her boob. He told me everyone in the lines' eyes' were wide open and every guy after him asked for a picture. However, she didn't let them grab her boob. Knowing my friend he is very non chalant about everything and this aspect of him was probably what really striked her. The key to gaming any girl is to literally be yourself (unless yourself is being an AFC). Don't give them special treatment just because they're celebrities. Of course that's theory but it's probably true anyways.
 

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well, i'd start by saying that i have never done this so everything i say would be coming outta my arse!

teh situation u said is very hard, where u have very little time to actually game her, but yes, standing out in her eyes is easy. Just don't do what others are doing. what you can do is start out with a compliments and nice words, you know what i mean, like the rest and tehn pull out a pad and a pen.... and then, sign on it, give ur autograph, ur name and ur phn number under that. u get me? not a very solid game and it is dependent on the woman if she is going to take the chance or not. but that is the most you can do i think. just imagine the situation: first trying for rapport and the next moment, u r breaking rapport, full push-pull in action... thats just what i might have thought to do, not speaking of the courage if i could do that.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Outsider said:
Oh it can be done.
Well care to explain how ?? I did manage a one night stand with a semi celeb, but I regretted it as she felt way too easy to get with lol and I was paranoid for the next few weeks thinking I had caught something and it turned out to be only the flu.
 

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There is something I've noticed in the past month. The older they get, the easier is it to get them if you're truly a DJ and have that alpha male mindset. I've noticed that a lot of women have been really attracted to me and their age range has fallen between 20 to 23 and I'm only 18. I literally don't have to try but with girls that are like 17-19 I actually have to try.

So my theory is that with celebrities this notion is even stronger...however, you'll probably have to make ZERO mistakes. I remember someone asked a question to Style that if he could approach an Australian and try to bring that up as a conversation starter (cause he was Australian). He told him you're picking an aspect of her that is easy to start a conversation with. If it's easy to pick out then most likely every other guy has already picked that out and used it to start the conversation. Can you picture the celebrities face if you acted like you didn't know who she was and treated her like any other woman?
 

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Present yourself in a way that makes you stand out, different, yet interesting. Then:

"Hi, do you have e-mail?"
 

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I figure they're the same as any girl. A bigger ego maybe. And there'd be more internal resistence - your inner AFC would be pedestalling harder than ever - but hell, could be done.
 

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Hate to use such a pop example, but in "The Game," Neil Straus talks about the interview he did with Britney Spears where he talked to her as a PERSON, rather than a celebrity. Celebrities are normal people like the rest of us--they like the same things, they have the same insecurities, etc.

Your best bet is to try to make a connection on a deeper level. Forget negs--those will make you look like you're trying too hard. Be humorous and make them feel like you understand what their life is like and they may see you as a kindred spirit. Celebrities are often a bit lonely; they meet so many disingenuous people that want to use them for their fame that they sometimes yearn for "normal" human contact.

However, don't expect anything to come of this. The best you can hope for as a stranger is to leave her thinking that you were a cool, attractive guy. You will most likely NOT get her number or email no matter HOW smooth you are. Celebrity ASD is pretty severe.

In the end, the only reason to even pursue this is for bragging rights. If you remove the airbrush from most celebrities, you'll find that there are TONS of hotter "normal" girls.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Gangster Of Love said:
Present yourself in a way that makes you stand out, different, yet interesting. Then:

"Hi, do you have e-mail?"

Bud Im willing to bet at least like 20 dumb asses do it per autograph session to them.

There literally is NO way.Even if you had best body language,awesome tone,she would have to turn you down cause of her scheduling,not wanting to get into anything at the moment,her social status....

Of coarse its easy to plan out what you could do on the internet.Its another story of it working out
 

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Was it at an autograph session or he just randomly met her?Was it a real number or did it end up being fake?

Hell he could have gotten a fake number but said it was real.
 

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I don't think its likely.

A lyric from The Streets kind of says it all

When you're a famous boy, it gets really easy to get girls,
it's all so easy you get a bit spoilt.
But, when you try to pull a girl, who is also famous too,
it feels just like when you wasn't famous.
 

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War Against Betaism said:
One of my friends was getting an autograph from a famous model around the area (I think it was Lisa Fleming, google her hot as fvck) and then he casually asked her to take a picture with him. He put his arm around her and then she took his hand and let him touch her boob. He told me everyone in the lines' eyes' were wide open and every guy after him asked for a picture. However, she didn't let them grab her boob. Knowing my friend he is very non chalant about everything and this aspect of him was probably what really striked her. The key to gaming any girl is to literally be yourself (unless yourself is being an AFC). Don't give them special treatment just because they're celebrities. Of course that's theory but it's probably true anyways.
I know Lisa Fleming...shes originally from Sacramento. I used to fvck her back in the day. She gives blow jobs like a champ. True Story.
 

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Ken785 said:
I know Lisa Fleming...shes originally from Sacramento. I used to fvck her back in the day. She gives blow jobs like a champ. True Story.

You're kidding! If you were really serious, :rockon:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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War Against Betaism

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I'm guessing before, all models and celebrities were high school students once. The friend that I actually talk about in my story has dated this up and coming model/go go dancer who's making a name for herself within the area. Though if after, more power to you :rockon:
 

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When celebrities meet someone that treats them like a normal person they want to hang around with them because it is so rare. If you were gaming a celbrity the best case scenario would be that you seen her and pretended to not recognise her and just acted normal. I don't really see it being that much harder then any other hot girl as long as you don't put her on a pedestal or she is already in a scenario where she is automatically on a pedestal (like what you are describing). Best bet would be to seperate yourself from every other guy ASAP. I'm sure Mystery and Style etc could pull it off, their indirect game works perfectly for that.
 
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