game plan? (need a little advice for plates)

[Chamber36]

well I am getting sorta confused when it comes to the game plan post-club.

I am basically always afraid to message a girl because it might lower her interest in me.

So I got a few new plates I'm working on. 4 to be exact, and I'm currently doing NC on 1, simply because I can't IOI anymore imho. I'll elaborate on all 4.

The first is the one I got a nipple flash from. She's a HB7.5(ok face, nice body)brunette. She used to give me a lot of sh*t at work and I basically told her to stfu a few times. Then I ran into her when I wasn't working, pressed her against me and escalated at an incredible rate. I almost made out with her and managed to pull on her bra to take a look at her nipple. All with a straight face of course. So then as she left the club I told her to gimme her number. I texted her and she gave me some cr@p. Then I stopped texting her. Saw her a few weeks ago, she had a very very high IL. Asked her if she'd have time for me next time I text. She said maybe.
Ran into her last weekend, she was playing hard to get and I didn't chase. But I got some subtle ass-kino, so she is obviously still diggin me. She wasn't paying too much attention to me though, because I overheard her talking abotu some other guy, and a 2.5 year relationship and bla bla bla, and I think she deliberately wanted me to overhear it. I didn't want to get involved with boy-trouble and emotional baggage so I let her and her friends do their thing. I just congruently casually engaged her and kino'd. Then I left. Think she was trying to make me jealous and lure me in or something. She was making it pretty easy for me now that I think about it.


The next one... I ran into her the same night the other girl had a very high IL, while I was working. She asked me what I was doing the next weekend. I said Amsterdam, she said she would be there. So I text her whether she's there the next weekend, she says no, but she asks how Amsterdam is, and cuz I wasn't really enjoying myself I didn't text her back cuz didn't want to complain, or lie. I texted her today(4 days later) at 5pm: "it was ok, did you have fun?". No answer yet, but I guess I deserve that. No biggie.

Other girl... well she's my friend's little sister. I tried to game on her a few years back, tried to give her some math pointers. Anyway she was kinda repelled by that, but what was I to do, being the nice guy that I was. Now she's allied with a girl that loves to gossip, coincedentally also about me. And since I been workin and my game's been improving, she's been IOI'ing me alot.
A while back I was talking to a HB8(maybe 9 if you're into short girls), and she walked by me. I tap her and she talks to me. Basically ignoring friends and rubbing her ass on me like she was in heat. I was sitting on a barstool she was standing(way to go right?). So I got the number there and then, told her outside to call me when she got home, and she obediently texted me so I got her number. Since then she came and talked to me while I was working for a good 3 minutes. She was really nervous and I was just trying to look at her tits because they were incredible. Her hair was covering them and she had like a jewel-mesh thing over them aswell. Pretty hawt. Then recently while I was working, her gossip friend engaged me at work(she's an AW), and asked me some gossip whether my friend is gay or whatever, I dunno. Anyway I could tell her interest was still high because she followed her friend and faced me directly. High IL body-language in other words. So it's now been 11 days since I seen her, and I'm wondering if I should text her.... But I'm afraid it'll diminish her IL.


Now the last girl, I ran into while clubbing saturday. She was talking to her friends, I tap her and she is facing me completely and touching my chest. She asked me whether the stories she had heard about me were true, and I told her that I would like to hear these stories!(I don't even know what people are saying about me!) So she told me to join her on the dancefloor. I go to get some drinks, run into her trying to walk through the crowd, she reaches for my hand, I grab her wrist, and she pulls herself through the crowd and presses her tits against my hand. We chit-chat, and she is rubbing my lower back, then she went to the smoking section. Saw her in the smoking section talking to my colleague, and her 2 friends were also captivated by him. His game is pretty spot-on if you ask me. Really tight. I got a little jealous and joined in on the conversation. As she introduced ehr friends to the colleague of mine, she noticed I was jealous and introduced them to me aswell. I wasn't really digging the obligatory introductions by these girls. I just gave em a heartless manly hand-shake.
So as I'm talking to the bouncer later that night, about 3 minutes before closing time, she walks by and knocks me with her ass. The bouncer says: "go get her!! that's a signal!" So I say: "I been getting signals all night! but you're right!" So I go in after her, and then she suddenly turns around and disappears into the crowd. I gave up the chase...

So then on monday I add her on facebook. Now about an hour ago I saw she had some love-poem on her fb page about taking somebody on holiday or some crap. I think it's directed towards me. Thought about sending an IM but it sent my heart racing. Feels pretty exciting, but dunno what to do. She has a boyfriend who's 2-3 years younger than me. Seems like she's been together with him for a year or more, and judging from her behavior saturday it seems like she's totally over this guy.

Now bare in mind that I have immense trouble disabling women's ASL.

What do you guys think I should do?

 

[joverby]

Jesus, man. This is nauseating to read. I think you're taking this pick up stuff way too literally and treating it like it's some sort of lab experiment. I really LIKE that you are putting yourself out there, getting numbers and talking to girls. But I noticed one of your highest acheivements was "almost making out." Not much to be bragging about TBH.

Keep at it, man. But please, relax a little and try to let it be more natural. I think you're making this way harder on yourself than it has to be. Why are you scared to text or talk to girls because it will lower their interest?

How the fvck do you expect to raise it if you don't talk to them? Just call them to set up a date, man. That's all you gotta do. Some girl that likes you(to varying levels) will have no problem answering her phone and agreeing to a date.

Not sure how you are planning on progressing otherwise. Quit thinking so much and focus on normal/healthy interactions.(i.e. at first just communicating when you want to set up a date) Too much thinking and not enough action = no results. Think less and act more, if you get rejected, so what?

[Edit]:Also I would stop worrying and spending so much time on girls with boyfriends. You add this girl on facebook and she posts a love poem. She has a boyfriend. But for some reason you assume it's about you? Again, quit analyzing so much and just act already.

 

[Chamber36]

Don't really know what to tell you. I've gotten plenty of awesome make-outs before. I got a make-out with 2 chicks simultaneously a while back too, just so u know. They just don't always lead to success imho.

But I have been mentally focussing on my friend's little sister. I think her IL in me might dwindle if I don't text her fast. But that might just be my AFC brain getting desperate, and maybe her IL will rise if I don't text her. I guess I'll just have to handle my business and ask her to watch a movie.

I guess I might be overthinking this, but I find it best to go through all situations in my head before I encounter them in Real Life and don't know what to do. That's the whole reason I stopped jerking off so much - so that I would think about girls in my vicinity.

Edit: BTW I'll get a make-out this friday just to prove it to you.

 

[joverby]

You dont' have to tell me anything, I was just letting you know what I observed.

Have fun letting the hamster wheel spin but I would rather actually try to meet up with girls and FVCK THEM as opposed to balancing IL equations about how soon to text or call.

Look at yourself going back and forth wondering what the result of how soon or late you text her will be to her IL....Who cares?!?! If you want to hang out with her and fvck her, then try to hang out with her. IDK why you're so worried about her IL when you haven't even done sh1t yet.

[Edit]: To each his own but a make-out isn't much of a reward for me. It's more-so a precursor to fvcking her. You're trying so hard to be a DJ that is resulting ins massive over analyzing, which is a pretty AFC thing IMO.

 

[Kailex]

Chambers, your post reads as a giant hill of insecurity, one that you are steadily building yourself with a huge shovel.

There is no better teacher than experience, and right now, I can tell that you lack a little of it.

Don't be afraid to make mistakes, no matter how bad they are. You can go through 1,000 situations in your head, over and over, and still not learn anything. It's never guaranteed to go the way you imagined it, and that's why it is necessary to learn, even if it is through failure.

Failure is only continued failure if you never really learn from it.

You asked what you should do, and I propose that you escalate with every woman that you meet and not focus so much on the "What If's". Focus more on learning and becoming a better man and a better man with women.

What worries me is that you seem a bit afraid to make that jump because of certain insecurities, possibly concerning rejection. Remember, rejection is fine, it's a natural process of life.

Now stop playing scenarios through your mind and start living them.
I guarantee that even the bad ones will eventually become good ones.

 

[Chamber36]

Sigh*

well I just texted 3 girls.

None of them are on that list but whatever. I'll get more into it.

 

[Chamber36]

2 of them answered me and I got dates with both of em!

:rockon: