Game for below average guys

[evan12]

When I was younger and pursuing younger girls, sometimes if I pursued one girl she would turn me down, but would throw me her female friend who seemed eager. She might not have been as attractive as the girl I originally pursued. But I was pre-approved and certified by her friend and she was good to go. I didn't really go for it. Or maybe I had a male friend who had a GF and sometimes his GF would have a female friend that she'd match you up. Sometimes the guy friend would maybe on a drunken night suggest you get in his GF bed .

I don't know how much this still applies nowadays and with guys outside their 30's. Social circles don't work for me today and at my age.

after 30 to be successful in social circle, you have to be "decent man" in the way that We knew it , (stable , not over weight , respectable , etc ) and not to have reputation of player , so women can hand other women to you without feeling guilty because of you may play them .

 

[foreverAFC]

ForeverAFC:

That's a great angle. If you aren't hot, have some fun anyway. You can be a free spirited "lone wolf" of sorts. I do this on a much smaller scale while still keeping a decent paying job.

yeah its not the end of the world, you just need to realize how to make life as cool as you can for yourself. me, i got tired of feeling like i was Bud Bundy and i realized that most women werent going to find me attractive based on my looks or personality, and im comfortable enough with myself to say that. i dont think im an ugly guy, but i know im not a guy that turns women on or interests them. so i realize i need to live my life a bit differently in order to have fun. for example, when all the attractive men and women are having lunch together at work, i have to drive around the corner and get high by myself in the back of the golds gym parking lot so i can close my eyes and dream of all the things ill never be. or instead of going out on dates and movies with girlfriends, i have to go to the strip club and pay a stripper a couple hundred bucks to titty fck her in the backroom after i get high and drunk in the parking lot. i dont make a lot of money but because im not trapped in a shtty relationship and i dont have kids or a gf to spend on, whatever i make i get to spend on myself and my own vices. i can spend my time and money on high quality marijuana and jack daniels, weight lifting and martial arts, strippers and massage parlours etc....


as an unattractive guy, you are probably going to spend a lot of money on things like clothes, haircuts, expensive dates and things like that just to a have a shot at getting with a girl, you may as well just spend that money on a sack of bud and a well reviewed wh0re that you can order on a website like www.myredbook.com

 

[corrector]

yeah its not the end of the world, you just need to realize how to make life as cool as you can for yourself. me, i got tired of feeling like i was Bud Bundy and i realized that most women werent going to find me attractive based on my looks or personality, and im comfortable enough with myself to say that. i dont think im an ugly guy, but i know im not a guy that turns women on or interests them. so i realize i need to live my life a bit differently in order to have fun. for example, when all the attractive men and women are having lunch together at work, i have to drive around the corner and get high by myself in the back of the golds gym parking lot so i can close my eyes and dream of all the things ill never be. or instead of going out on dates and movies with girlfriends, i have to go to the strip club and pay a stripper a couple hundred bucks to titty fck her in the backroom after i get high and drunk in the parking lot. i dont make a lot of money but because im not trapped in a shtty relationship and i dont have kids or a gf to spend on, whatever i make i get to spend on myself and my own vices. i can spend my time and money on high quality marijuana and jack daniels, weight lifting and martial arts, strippers and massage parlours etc....

I don't know what sounds happy about that type of lifestyle. It sounds more like an escape. You are not getting companionship from strippers, someone who is by your side, and if you have the right gf you could do all of that anyway. The whole lifestyle just sounds like a cop-out and your name "foreverAFC" is just resigned.

I don't think people are helping you by encouraging this - your belief system that you are a write-off and have to resort to substitution of having a real woman, who loves you for who you are, in your life.

I actually think the same way you do (minus the drugs part because you can't fvck drugs, you fvck women), which is why I'm more defensive to what I see is resignation or an extreme. I would still say, make that lifestyle into a "reward system" for making an effort and falling flat on your face rather than just totally resigning.

as an unattractive guy, you are probably going to spend a lot of money on things like clothes, haircuts, expensive dates and things like that just to a have a shot at getting with a girl, you may as well just spend that money on a sack of bud and a well reviewed wh0re that you can order on a website like www.myredbook.com

Clothes and haircuts are an investment. I don't think haircuts are that expensive. Clothes is more about style and what suites you. Dates don't have to be expensive. You just have to know romantic venues. Nature trails that are exotic are free. Spending money just sends a message that you "had to pay" but with dates or spending money on a relationship somehow that's different. The woman's time at least is free in that exchange and she's giving that to you. A wh0re will still charge you if you want her company to build memories with someone out there.

It's apples and oranges.

 

[skinnyguy]

Social value makes you look a lot more attractive. If I were some random guy at a bar, I would get rejected by even fat girls. But this past weekend I was at a wedding, and since i was friends with the groom, my game improved dramatically and I was talking to good looking women left and right. Social circle is the way to go. If you don't have a fairly large group of friends you're screwed.