"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Fvck.....will Somebody Fvckin Help Me!!!!!!!

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I'm turning back into a fvckin AFC, right before my eyes, I hate this ****, and I will not live like this. It all started when I decided to keep a journal or log, for three weeks, on the number of approaches I do, and that everytime I get rejected, I would become better next time. But now....I can't even fvckin approach a ***** anymore! Here's how I see it:

First Week:
5 approaches a day, with 2 date setups/numbers.
7 days a week= 35 approaches, 14 date setups.
5-7 Actual dates (due to flakes), 1-2 actual fvcks.

Second Week:
approaches are the same, but I should get 3 date setups/numbers.
7 days a week= 35 approaches, 21 date setups/numbers.
7-10 Actual dates (due to flakes), 3-5 actual fvcks.

Third Week:
same or a little higher than the second week.

The problem now is, I CANT FVCKIN APPROACH ANYMORE. Now, I'm afraid, scared, I give a damn, I am totaling not comfortable, man....I just fvcked up! Does anyone agree with my numbers above, and what the hell can I do to get back to my natural don juan self. Man, its like....I'm so damn afraid of rejection and ****, and this is not my personality at all, and it didnt start until I wrote down this plan.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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What do you want us to say? You've been getting results. You'll probably get more results if you stick with it. It's up to you.
 

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What I'm saying, is that now I am afraid to approach when before I wasn't, and I dont like feeling like that.......I guess I'm just whining......I dunno
 

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I'll tell you why you are become an AFC , because you are criticising you every single fvcking move, logging every single detail , and analyzing every single approach, STOP IT!!!

Mercy, who gives a d@mn, just stop caring about the results GOOD or BAD and keep doing what you are doing and you'll be fine ...
 

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rgeere,

thats it! You are right....man.....I just want to be the best don juan I can be that I guess, I just wanted to be kind of "perferct" with the ladies, but not in a nice guy way. You know, I have learned all these tactics, and I have found the true don juan in me, but at the end of the day, I am still depressed. Depressed because I dont have a girl, even though I know what attracts them, I still dont have one yet. I was attempting to get out more and see more girls, but I wanted to keep the log so I could figure out why a certain type of girl rejected me and change next time, but......man....I'm sorry, I am depressed right now....I need a nap.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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uhhhhh......
okay, I am starting to come back a little bit now, but.....ah fvck all the buts. I'm bout to go out and get rejected and not give a damn.
 

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The best thign thing to do is to just grow some balls and do it. You gave up after THREE WEEKS?!?!? It takes some guys YEARS to get good, getting rejected many times evey day until they do, and they didn't give up.

If you find you can't do that, I would reccomend meeting up with some guys from sosuave.com or ASF who also like to do approaches. This will motivate you to do them if they push you into sets.

We're having free mini-seminars in Boston and New York soon, even if you're not interesting in taking a workshop, they're a great way to meet guys from the community who also want to sarge. Also, hanging out with guys who have absolutely no approach anxiety provides lots of positive peer pressure for you to become the same way.

-Dan
 

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First Week:
5 approaches a day, with 2 date setups/numbers.
7 days a week= 35 approaches, 14 date setups.
5-7 Actual dates (due to flakes), 1-2 actual fvcks.

Second Week:
approaches are the same, but I should get 3 date setups/numbers.
7 days a week= 35 approaches, 21 date setups/numbers.
7-10 Actual dates (due to flakes), 3-5 actual fvcks.
Seems like bragging to me. :eek:
I guess I'd have to go a lot slower to have the feeling that I still have control over .... dunno ... everything.

Might that be a/the problem?

Approaching girls 7 days a week? ... wow.
 
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Originally posted by SchuhSohle
Approaching girls 7 days a week? ... wow.
I think he needs a job!;)

Maybe if you quit eating a woman's vagina and start pursuing women for other purposes you'll have more success!
 

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Originally posted by PVSSY-EATER
I'm turning back into a fvckin AFC, right before my eyes, I hate this ****, and I will not live like this. It all started when I decided to keep a journal or log, for three weeks, on the number of approaches I do, and that everytime I get rejected, I would become better next time. But now....I can't even fvckin approach a ***** anymore! Here's how I see it:

First Week:
5 approaches a day, with 2 date setups/numbers.
7 days a week= 35 approaches, 14 date setups.
5-7 Actual dates (due to flakes), 1-2 actual fvcks.

Second Week:
approaches are the same, but I should get 3 date setups/numbers.
7 days a week= 35 approaches, 21 date setups/numbers.
7-10 Actual dates (due to flakes), 3-5 actual fvcks.

Third Week:
same or a little higher than the second week.

The problem now is, I CANT FVCKIN APPROACH ANYMORE. Now, I'm afraid, scared, I give a damn, I am totaling not comfortable, man....I just fvcked up! Does anyone agree with my numbers above, and what the hell can I do to get back to my natural don juan self. Man, its like....I'm so damn afraid of rejection and ****, and this is not my personality at all, and it didnt start until I wrote down this plan.
Do I got this right, you fvcked about 7-12 girls in 3 weeks and your complaining? Many guys don't fvck that many girls in their lifetime. You must be going for the sex and you wonder why you don't have a relationship. I don't know why you'd be uncomfortable with approaching now. I don't really get you at all.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Originally posted by PVSSY-EATER
... but at the end of the day, I am still depressed. Depressed because I dont have a girl, even though I know what attracts them, I still dont have one yet. I was attempting to get out more and see more girls, but I wanted to keep the log so I could figure out why a certain type of girl rejected me and change next time, but......man....I'm sorry, I am depressed right now....I need a nap.
P-E, reading your recent posts, I take it that you are better now?

You are writing your motivational threads more for yourself than for others - what a difference a month makes.

Keep positive - but quit eating pvssy!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

Your posts have been of much better quality lately since you began your thread a minute rampage. :)

I didn't respond favorably to you in my first post because I didn't like your name and I thought you were joking and just seeking attention - if you need help PM me and I'll give you some insight to rid your depressive state.
 
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First Week:
5 approaches a day, with 2 date setups/numbers.
7 days a week= 35 approaches, 14 date setups.
5-7 Actual dates (due to flakes), 1-2 actual fvcks.

Second Week:
approaches are the same, but I should get 3 date setups/numbers.
7 days a week= 35 approaches, 21 date setups/numbers.
7-10 Actual dates (due to flakes), 3-5 actual fvcks.

I AM A GOOD LOOKING GUY AND I GET 0 NUMBERS PER WEEK. 0 NUMBERS PER MONTH,
I GET FVCKED BECAUSE I PAY FOR ESCORT SERVICES ONCE A MONTH.
I DATE A 10 BUT SHE IS A PIECE OF TRASH "INDEPENDENT WOMAN" WHO CLAIMS TO BE A VIRGIN.

SO QUIT B*TCHING YOU IDIOT, I HAVE IT A LOT WORSE.
 

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5 approaches a day, with 2 date setups/numbers.
7 days a week= 35 approaches, 14 date setups.
5-7 Actual dates (due to flakes), 1-2 actual fvcks.

****

For example, out of the 7 days with your numbers, you'd be getting 40% of the approaches as date setups. Out of that 40%, you'd be having sex with 30-50% of them. Overall you would be screwing 14% of the girls you approached. So in essence you're saying you should be getting screwing 14 out of every 100 girls or approaches. Like e-mail marketing, you can only expect about half a percent return!! I'm thinking at best you can expect a 2-5% screw job on these chics out in public with cold approaching. If you're doing it at the bar though, dramatically increases the odds.
 

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Pvssy, also wanted to say that you can reduce your rejection to injection ratio substantially by only approaching girls that give you some non-verbal interest signals, such as extended eye contact etc.

Real men fear rejection! Why? Because they take themselves seriously. It's an extension by being the best at everything else they do in their life. Many here will disagree, but if you find yourself being the best at everything you do, taking rejection isn't very easy, because you choose a girl you deemed worthy of 'you' in the first place. Another reason to only pursue girls that are interested to begin with.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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You're letting this idea of approaching women and being a don juan be a chore and a job instead of just a part of your life that naturally develops. You're WORKING at it when it should be FUN and an ENTERTAINING part of your life.

Your approach journal looks like my gym workout routine!

3 sets/ 10 reps
3 days / 10 women

Working out SUCKS, it's HARD.

Guess what? It doesn't ****ing matter if you apporach 7 girls today or not another girl for 7 days.

Chill. Relax. The only person who thinks it's a big deal is YOU and you're putting WAY TO MUCH PRESSURE on yourself over something so small.

Go treat youself to somethign fun tonight, so see a movie with a friend and forget about apporaching for a day.

It's not big deal man.
 

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hey, didn't you say this in an earlier thread, called "dateless at 24" (http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74314) when i told the poster he should do more cold approaches, you said:

Originally posted by PVSSY-EATER
You can do 1,000 approaches, get about 500 phone numbers, and still not get no *****. Trust me, I have in the past stacked up a lot of numbers, only to be flaked out by all of them.
maybe this is during the time you were slumped. anyway, i think you're taking it a bit too seriously, and Qmanchoo is right. you gotta remember that you're doing this for yourself, and just have fun with it.

you're doing a lot more approaches than me, so keep it at, good job. also, just curious, where do you meet so many hot women in one week? stopping girls walking in the opposite direction is tough ****. cafes? bookstores? thanks.
 

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you had sex with more than 1 girl each week for the past 3 weeks and you think you are an AFC?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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