"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Fvck i could not pull the trigger

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I was in the mall today trying to buy some clothes. It was like 11am. The mall is an upscale one with good stores. I went into the ralph lauren polo store. I walk in and see this hb 7.5-8 waiting there. I was like fvck this girl is hot. I was acting all cool and calm. I asked her if they had this sweatshirt. she started showing me different ones. i could tell she was somewhat shy not too much though. I was like "they dont have a black one?" she was like "ill show you online and see if there is one." we walk to the counter and she gets on the computer. im leaning on the counter in between us. she then says
her: so its 1130am on a tuesday you arent working or in school"
me: nope (with a laugh). im starting a new job on monday going back to school blah blahb blah blahb
her: blahb blah blah blah me too.

Then right after shes like hey you dont gotta stand on the other side you can come over here and look (behind the counter with her)
I go over there and look. still cant find it. at this time i was like fvck the sweater i want this girls number cause atleast i felt a connection seemed like she did too. I get this feeling in my gut when i know. she walks out of some room and was like here fill this out and ill contact you when i find one or you can call me if you see something online you like and i can blabh blah blah.

i fill it out and was about to drop it off (think she was helping someone) she comes and grabs it from me and hands me her card w her name but not her personal phone. i was like thanks for your help. she was like good luck with the new job. blah blah blah. I WILL EMAIL YOU BY END OF DAY for that sweatshirt. right then i almost asked her for her number but there was a couple of people around then she looked at my last name on the sheet and pronounced it wrong i laughed correcting her and she said bye.

probably about 30 minutes later i gotta a call from some number i answered it. it was that girl. hey this is blah blah blah i found blabhb blah its 180$. i basically said not interested. right then i was about to ask her on the phone about taking her out but i didnt. she then said look online and if you find one call me ill have it shipped for free and blah blah. then she said well have a good day and i said you too.

two blown chances. i know im stupid. i dont know atleast i didnt come off as a desperate chump like hey this is the first time i talked to you can i have your number. im use to girls asking me and saying we should hang out then i would say well heres my number so call me, and they usually do. now i think my only hope would be to buy something online and call her. i think it would be stupid to go into the store again pretend like i want something and ask her for her number. any other suggestons?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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aix237 said:
I was in the mall today trying to buy some clothes. It was like 11am. The mall is an upscale one with good stores. I went into the Ralph Lauren polo store. I walk in and see this hb 7.5-8 waiting there. I was like fvck this girl is hot. I was acting all cool and calm. I asked her if they had this sweatshirt. she started showing me different ones. i could tell she was somewhat shy not too much though. I was like "they don't have a black one?" she was like "ill show you online and see if there is one." we walk to the counter and she gets on the computer. im leaning on the counter in between us. she then says
her: so its 1130am on a Tuesday you aren't working or in school"
me: nope (with a laugh). I'm starting a new job on Monday going back to school blah blah blah blah
her: blahb blah blah blah me too.

Then right after shes like hey you dont gotta stand on the other side you can come over here and look (behind the counter with her)
I go over there and look. still cant find it. at this time i was like fvck the sweater i want this girls number cause at least i felt a connection seemed like she did too. I get this feeling in my gut when i know. she walks out of some room and was like here fill this out and ill contact you when i find one or you can call me if you see something online you like and i can blah blah blah.

i fill it out and was about to drop it off (think she was helping someone) she comes and grabs it from me and hands me her card w her name but not her personal phone. i was like thanks for your help. she was like good luck with the new job. blah blah blah. I WILL EMAIL YOU BY END OF DAY for that sweatshirt. right then i almost asked her for her number but there was a couple of people around then she looked at my last name on the sheet and pronounced it wrong i laughed correcting her and she said bye.

probably about 30 minutes later i gotta a call from some number i answered it. it was that girl. hey this is blah blah blah i found blah blah its 180$. i basically said not interested. right then i was about to ask her on the phone about taking her out but i didnt. she then said look online and if you find one call me ill have it shipped for free and blah blah. then she said well have a good day and i said you too.

two blown chances. i know im stupid. i dont know at least i didnt come off as a desperate chump like hey this is the first time i talked to you can i have your number. im use to girls asking me and saying we should hang out then i would say well here's my number so call me, and they usually do. now i think my only hope would be to buy something online and call her. i think it would be stupid to go into the store again pretend like i want something and ask her for her number. any other suggestions?

Tough One! Usually hitting on girls at work is touchy! But if you were feeling it, you were feeling it!

Could say lesson learned and act next time, or say vindicate your self at least try!

Remember POOK when in question say "perfect is boring"~! Than go for it.
This ones up to you! However; if you at least go for it there can be no regrets, and regrets suck more than rejections.
 

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Yeah...you're officially stupid. *STAMP* :rolleyes:

Haha, go back and buy something, even a hat, a shirt you like..you already know what you did wrong, you didn't force yourself to get her number, AND you let outside opinion on you asking this totally into you girl for her number...?

Damn!
 

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i dont know why i just think its weird if i go in and buy somehting and being like yea by the way can i have your number. maybe ill go in there buy a shirt (not a 180 dollar one) and see if she asks me.
 

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Ok, think of it this way....

If I was the cashier, and I flirted with a girl, and got her number and went all that way to sell her a thingy, I'm not just being a salesperson, because they dont' normally do that. Now, if she came back and started to show interest in me, well damn, I think I'd go with it right? Probably the same deal.

Hell, walk in, find her and give her a hug for being so helpful
(more effect to buy said shirt), then let her help you buy something else..
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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aix237 said:
i dont know why i just think its weird if i go in and buy somehting and being like yea by the way can i have your number. maybe ill go in there buy a shirt (not a 180 dollar one) and see if she asks me.

If you go in there and hope she asks for your number, than don't go at all!!!!

Do you know how creepy that is going to look and she will instantly put you in the "oh no here he comes" category!!

IF you go back there you have to man up and ask! NO MATTER THE OUTCOME!!!

YOU DON'T WANT A SHIRT YOU WANT TO SUCCEED IN DOING, WHERE YOU ONCE FAILED!
 

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yea youre right i cant go in there for a shirt i will be put in that category i just gotta go in there and ask. what do you say? hey last time i wanted to get your number but i had to go. hahah she already has my number cause the card i filled out so i cant say i wanted to give you my number last time
 

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Don't beat yourself up over this one. You'll have LOTS of blown opportunities for numbers and even sex that were pretty much layups from the get go. Just remember them from time to time your screw ups, take notes on what went wrong, and think about what you could have done to make things turn out in your favor. In this case it's pretty obvious but just keep yourself in the game and you should be okay.

You're like kicker on a football team who just missed two chip shot feild goals. The coach may want you to do some running in practice but you're still on the team and you'll play again next week.
 

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i dont know whats wrong with me sometime. i guess i just expect them to do everything cause usually thats what happens. i got spoiled i think before. ive given up pvssy that was a "lay up" a handful of times. girls just waiting for me to get there number etc. from now on im just going to say fvck it and do it if i feel it right then and there.
 

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aix237 said:
i dont know whats wrong with me sometime. i guess i just expect them to do everything cause usually thats what happens. i got spoiled i think before. ive given up pvssy that was a "lay up" a handful of times. girls just waiting for me to get there number etc. from now on im just going to say fvck it and do it if i feel it right then and there.

There it is!

Yea if you want to go back just to erase regret than go for it, but the rules of that have to be: Go for the number only. No excuses' or buying things. Just ask for the number and forget the outcome. Think of it like boot camp!

I think that since it bothers you so much this isn't one you should walk away from. You won't get arrested asking for a number. If she says no tell her "she has your number and give you a call if she changes her mind." Walk out proud of yourself.

I told you hitting on girls at work is touchy.
 

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When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

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You just have to go back to the store and hit her up for her number. Browse a little, don't go straight up to her, but open her warmly when you see her - don't pretend like "oh, i didn't see you there, i was just here to browse the store, now i'm just suddenly going to ask you out".

It doesn't matter what it looks like if you go back. What are you afraid of, her knowing she likes you? Not that you should fear that anyway, but at any rate asking for her number kind of gives the game away, so giving it away a minute earlier by being in the store is hardly going to matter. If she likes you she'll say yes, if not she'll say no. You have nothing to lose because you've got nothing right now.

Trying some contorted plan will only be even more lame, if only because it means you're putting way too much time and effort into such a little thing (which would build it up in your mind).

And you should have asked for her number the first time even though people were there. They don't matter - reframe it in your mind that you're the most important person there, if that helps.
 
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Okay okay...this is what you do--Realize that I usually never go in for the number unless I see that she's vibing with me...Once I see that she's really into it, I hand her my notebook (in college) and say, "Why dont you write down your number--I wanna ask you about X."

Now for your situation, assuming your confident enough that she's at least somewhat into you, you go in and do some mild small chat...i.e. how long have you been working here? Do you like it? etc. Ideally you will share an interest mutually, and you must LEAVE AN OPEN CONVERSATIONAL THREAD. You will then say, "Well I really need to get going. Why dont you leave me your number so I can finish telling you about [fill in here with unfinished convo thread]."

Getting numbers isn't really tricky--it should be natural and easy, and it really does build on experience. But ya know, it's really like this: YOU might go and think that you're "asking" a girl for her number. I, on the other hand...I am not "asking" for her number. I TELL her to write it down and I fully EXPECT her to do so. It really is a mindset thing. I might talk a little bit more about this later or on a different post, but I dont visit the DJ forums very often nowadays with my college life and work.

Good luck anyway.
 
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