"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Funny issue with NC

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Went out for lunch with a HB7 from PoF on Sunday 11/2.

She texted me right after and asked if I was free the following Saturday, 11/8.

I told her I would have to run it by my boss and get back to her. (my boss being my 11yo daughter because she is the one who told me to get online and 'get some chicks', so I tell all the HBs that I have to clear everything through her. They think it's funny).

Eventually we made plans for Saturday 11/8. Were supposed to meet at 6:30pm and I was running late from helping a friend with a project. I texted her at 5:00 and told her I wouldn't be able to make it until 7:15pm. She texted back and said "let's just go another time".. I didn't argue and said "OK sounds good".

Then I went NC. Yesterday she texted me several times throughout the day. I didn't respond.

Last night she texted me something I had never heard before "When you don't text me back it makes me think that you have a gf or are married and are busy with them. Do you have a GF or a wife?"

I replied and said "umm, NO. Not a real good statement from the one who canceled our date last night. There are two of us here and the one who canceled last night wasn't me".

She replied "Well I'm just telling you that if you have a GF or a wife we can still be friends but we won't be having sex"

I replied "no worries. But sense you canceled on me, you need to ask me out next time.. And I want steak, lobster, caviar, the finest wines, and a limo".

She said "no problem, you can pay for all of that and we can go out on Thursday ".

I said "Ok see you Thursday can't wait for you to buy me all that".


Going fine now. Meeting her Thursday after work, I think..

The part that confused me was the accusations of having a wife or GF just because I didn't respond right way.. That's one I have never seen before. ????
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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LMFAO

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I've heard that before, after banging a girl in the car and having to rush back home. Her saying "You're married aren't you?".

Just laugh it off and say something like "I'll be sure to leave my wedding ring at home then... and the wife ;)".

It's on anyway so you should be fine.
 

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I think she was just nuking you to elicit a response. It worked!
At least you got that hamster spinning out of control.
 

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She replied "Well I'm just telling you that if you have a GF or a wife we can still be friends but we won't be having sex"

This is a non-sequitur. The second caveat is an out and out lie.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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We shall see how this goes. Gonna schedule "dinner" for Thursday night somewhere close to her pad sense there are a lot more restaurants near her than me. Then hopefully go back to her place after to 'pet the cat' or something. :rockon:
 

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Dinner is a bit much for a first date, no less a girl you haven't slept with. You will be setting the tone as a romantic more so than a lover. You want to be a lover so you can fxxck her afterwards, plus you're wasting money on dinner for little reason. Go to a bar, or to the restaurant to drink wine (with at most a little snack in the side). Make sure you just briefly ask about the logistics mid-date such as "how long have you been living in this area?", "how close is your place?" and quickly change the subject in order to precede the pull. Tell her you want to take it slow just to comfort her (RSD Todd tactic). Then go back to her place and start kissing her and the rest.
 

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LMFAO said:
Dinner is a bit much for a first date, no less a girl you haven't slept with. You will be setting the tone as a romantic more so than a lover. You want to be a lover so you can fxxck her afterwards, plus you're wasting money on dinner for little reason. Go to a bar, or to the restaurant to drink wine (with at most a little snack in the side). Make sure you just briefly ask about the logistics mid-date such as "how long have you been living in this area?", "how close is your place?" and quickly change the subject in order to precede the pull. Tell her you want to take it slow just to comfort her (RSD Todd tactic). Then go back to her place and start kissing her and the rest.
This.

I don't really understand why you would go "NC" on this one. You changed the time of the date, she couldn't do it, you two agreed to some time in the future. On paper that all sounds good.

HB7 from POF. You already got the meet and greet out of the way. Just invite her over for movie night, or perhaps a drink at the bar first as a pre-emptive strike to ASD. Boom done.

By going "NC", and then talking about dinner, it seems you're making it harder than it needs to be.
 

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That motherfvckin hamster laid a fvckin mushroom cloud! Holy hell. I wouldn't do dinner, fvck that...go cheap, or cancel, then do drinks or coffee, she already sounds like an insecure nut with that girlfriend/wife comment.
 

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Slvt or BPD. She probably fvcked married guy before . In fact some slvts love married men . Ppl want what they can't get . If I were you I would stay away. Deeper you get you may not want to get out. By canceling the date it shows she is finicky and unreasonable . Meet her at your peril .
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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To be fair she didn't flake on you, it was you who was running late and so she decided to play games and re-establish her value by cancelling. If you weren't running late then she would have no reason to re-establish value and would have most likely met you.

If a girl asked me if I was married I would probably laugh at it so hard that she would feel stupid for saying such a thing. She's definitely had an experience before where a married/attached guy has dated her and so this is a red flag for her. She does however like you and so therefore even with that red flag she wouldn't be 100% closed off.

Its definitely time for you to bed her. Her comment of she won't be having sex if you're married basically tells you that sex with you is on her mind.
 

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logicallefty Eventually we made plans for Saturday 11/8. Were supposed to meet at 6:30pm and I was running late from helping a friend with a project. I texted her at 5:00 and told her I wouldn't be able to make it until 7:15pm. She texted back and said "let's just go another time".. I didn't argue and said "OK sounds good"........[B said:
"ok" would have been fine
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Then I went NC. Yesterday she texted me several times throughout the day. I didn't respond.

Last night she texted me something I had never heard before "When you don't text me back it makes me think that you have a gf or are married and are busy with them. Do you have a GF or a wife?" .....shes basically just out gamed you by forcing a reply you should have kept NC

I replied "no worries. But sense you canceled on me, you need to ask me out next time.. And I want steak, lobster, caviar, the finest wines, and a limo".

She said "no problem, you can pay for all of that and we can go out on Thursday ". Don't like this comment at all
overall i don't like the sound of this chick she sounds like a spoilt brat with a few insecurities

i would advance with extreme caution
 

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Don't be so serious!

Agree, amplify and have fun with stuff like this.

Her: "Do you have a GF or wife?"

You: "6 GFs and 10 wives! But don't worry you're the only one who means anything to me."

or

"Damn you caught me! Can we introduce her to your other boyfriend/husband?"


Her: "Well I'm just telling you that if you have a GF or a wife we can still be friends but we won't be having sex"

You: "you're funny…..and weird!"
 
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