fundamental question: regarding attraction stage

[dng]

Hey gurus

I begin understanding how MM works out recently.

(I am still skeptical of some parts)

My biggest curiosity is about how to complete attraction without good looking apperance.

As far as I understand, if you do not clear attraction stage, you can't touch down comfort or disqualification stage.

I am positive that somewhat good looking or average looking guy can do well on attraction stage with routines or script and body language or voice tone.

But I am skeptical that ugly,short, bold or comparatively less attractive guy
can do attraction stage with Mystery Method.

Because there are many many good looking guys out there. Women also consider men's looking as important.

Or in other cases where even if he is good looking guy, some girls do not like him because she has her own standard, what can he do?

Using canned routine?

What if she is not willing to listen to him at all? or What if she is not emotionally aroused by routines because her weird standard dominate her mind strongly?

thansk

 

[Kevin Feng]

Here's the deal, if a guy isn't a attractive by any measure, he needs to compensate for that.

He needs to make up for that loss in other domains, money, power, charisma, etc.

Joe D. from first season of pick up artist is a great example of a guy who isn't good looking but does get good results while he's out in field.

One of his bigger secrets is that he leverages social proof for the preselection switch. He would bring two gorgeous girls out with him, one on each arm and they would serve as social proof for him. If girls see other girls around, they make assumptions, they assume that the guy is of high value and will want to chase him, it's a subconscious reaction.

In addition too, he's studied improv. comedy and has made his personality extremely contagious.

Joe has leveraged his personality and female attraction switches to make up for his lack of good looks.

-Kevin

 

[dng]

I saw the pickup artist season 1. I noticed Joe D did nothing. Of course, some small talks with girls or number close happened as seen in TV. (I have no way to watch behind scence) But that's it.

I would like to emphasize that even bad looking guys can have chance to talk with girls b/c the girls want to be seen as friendly or at least social as to talk with bad looking guys.

But Sex? No way.

I have my friend,Chris who is very knowledgeable about pickup skills and theory.

But he is fat,bald and ugly. Everytime I went out with him, he always got ****ed up.

Many times girls did not even give him any chance to play his game.

Just leave him when he tried to talk to them. Some willingly talked with him but after using him as Entertainmen monkey or something, they just back off.

 

[Igetit!]

I have my friend,Chris who is very knowledgeable about pickup skills and theory.

But he is fat,bald and ugly. Everytime I went out with him, he always got ****ed up.

Many times girls did not even give him any chance to play his game.

Just leave him when he tried to talk to them. Some willingly talked with him but after using him as Entertainmen monkey or something, they just back off.

If your friend is being used as an entertainment monkey,then maybe he isn't as knowledgeable as you think he is. The fundamental,basic,core root of attraction for a woman to a man is superiority. Women are attracted to men who they FEEL is superior,some one with a stronger frame. If he's being used as entertainment,the women know it,but he doesn't realize it until they walk off,or until he tries to date them,then they turn him down.

I wouldn't worry your looks.....as long as you're not hidious looking. The way you carry yourself,personality,and the energy and vibe you give off are all more important then your looks. Just make sure you're clean,have combed hair,proper hygene,etc. Seems to me like you're making the same common mistake that basically all men make at some point:you're thinking that the way you view women is the same way that they view you. Uh......it's not.
Although there may be some initial attraction when a girl first sees you,the most powerful,heart skipping kind of attraction for women will start the second you open your mouth.

 

[MisterMcGee]

Imperfect looks rarely ever KILL attraction for women.
Below desirable personality/confidence/body language/etc MOST DEFINITELY OFTEN kills attraction for women.