Frustrated With Bs From Women!

[abe0]

Briefly, went on date a week ago. She initiates 85% texts twice a day since...small talk bs...which I could do without. Going out tomorrow again. During the first date she tells me a guy did not pass her test on the third date....???.
Last night I texted "I saw my best friend and wants to go on a double date but I told him it was too early for that."
She says.."aren't you comfortable introducing me to your friend'?
I said... "absolutely but I think we need to know us first....heck I have not even had a great kiss nor hug from you yet....I haven't even passed your third date test yet...."
This morning she responds..."test that you are referring to is at any time and not in any order...Men don't really have any rules...huh?"

WTF....I never should have told her about my conversation with my friend...I know. What is this **** test all about? Am I dealing with another crazy testing emotional b8tch? Or normal average female behavior?

My plan is ignore her comment and several hours later respond..."hope you had great afternoon at work".....not even reference her comments...

Any thoughts and suggestions welcomed....specially from a mature audience...though I think 20...or 40....these days women all behave the same way.... Thanks in advance, Abe

 

[In2theGame]

Briefly, went on date a week ago. She initiates 85% texts twice a day since...small talk bs...which I could do without. Going out tomorrow again. During the first date she tells me a guy did not pass her test on the third date....???.
Last night I texted "I saw my best friend and wants to go on a double date but I told him it was too early for that."
She says.."aren't you comfortable introducing me to your friend'?
I said... "absolutely but I think we need to know us first....heck I have not even had a great kiss nor hug from you yet....I haven't even passed your third date test yet...."
This morning she responds..."test that you are referring to is at any time and not in any order...Men don't really have any rules...huh?"

WTF....I never should have told her about my conversation with my friend...I know. What is this **** test all about? Am I dealing with another crazy testing emotional b8tch? Or normal average female behavior?

My plan is ignore her comment and several hours later respond..."hope you had great afternoon at work".....not even reference her comments...

Any thoughts and suggestions welcomed....specially from a mature audience...though I think 20...or 40....these days women all behave the same way.... Thanks in advance, Abe

Why did you say that? You as a Man should go for the kiss without mentioning it. The way you said it made you look weak in a way. That does not display confidence because now she figures "Hmm,... He hasnt gotten a kiss from me yet? He's the man and he needs to make a move"

As for the double date thing, I either wouldnt have mentioned it at all or if i did then i would of said something like "I have no problem introducing you to my friends, I Just made plans for just us two right now". She may tests your confidence and masculinity in terms of going for what you want without her approval, in this case going for a hug and kiss. Two dates and you havent yet? You better make a move real soon or else shes going to get turned off. Woman want a man who displays strength, Confidence and a strong Masculine core making her feel more feminine and submissive which is her natural role.

 

[backbreaker]

you are shooting yourself in the foot.


1. why would you bring up a date that you don't want to go on lol?

would you tell a girl "yeah there is this nice ass diamond ring that would look so damn good on you but i don't think we are at that stage yet". what other emotion ar eyou going to possibly draw out of her other than the one you did lol? what did you expect her to say "yeah bro that's about right."

if you decided not to go on date, don't bring it up. i don't bring up **** with my wife that i don't plan on doing.. why lol? why would you possibly do that? what possible reason would you have to do this?


2. you are trying to negotiate attraction and you can't do that. like she's going to read your supper witty text and say "damn, yeah he has a point, maybe it's time i gave it up" lol. again, show me a woman that says this and i'll show you a post where i spelled everything correctly lol


1. I'm quite sure her text was sarcasm. another reason why i despise texting. you can't pick up on stuff like that via text.


well you can't take her out with your friend now beucase then you would have lost that showdown. and you can't ignore it.

so just take her out on a real but great date. that's the play here. you ****ed up, so make up, but don't apologize and don't give in

 

[abe0]

Thanks....it is so easy for me to read this and say...WTF was I thinking?
BTW, I did kiss her on the first date......but not one of those great juice ones and that is what I implied. Abe

 

[TheCWord]

Hey abe,

Lots of good advice in this thread already and it sounds like you know where you goofed... so let's not blame the woman for the BS on this one

Here's something that I try to remember: never bring up the relationship. Don't talk about whether or not you guys are ready for X, not how you need to get to know each other, not the quality of kiss/hugs/sex, etc. I know you weren't having the "relationship talk" or anything like that, but when you date a woman you almost have to pretend like she's dating you and she doesn't even know it. Like alerting her to the fact that she's dating you would freak her out.

Acknowledging a relationship is like looking a grizzly in the eye. There it was, hanging out, enjoying some picnic baskets or whatever. There you were, enjoying your camping trip. Everything peachy. Then you looked the f*cking bear in the eye!

You knew the bear was there. The bear knew you were there. But by not acknowledging each other you were able to carry on your happy existences.

Now the bear's going to eat you.

 

[abe0]

That's funny.....and I hate bears. Abe

 

[Yewki]

My plan is ignore her comment and several hours later respond..."hope you had great afternoon at work".....not even reference her comments...

Do not text that! Text anything but that haha

I would respond with something silly like, "Wow any time huh? You've got me looking over my shoulder, the suspense! I only have one rule, you gotta be able to make a killer sammich"... then don't plan on texting her again until you try to arrange a meetup.

 

[VladPatton]

I wouldn't complain about not getting any action. She's not gonna make it any easier for you by doing that. And you're right about not wanting to double date. You don't really know her, what is this junior high school? The girls chat and compare noted while the guys talk about their tits?

That texting gets people in trouble like a mudderfaqua! Every two threads it's about a texting goof or a Facebook goof. Use it sparingly, because a 'hi' turns into 3hr chit chat, that turns into a bad interpretation because of zero inflection, and then it turns into a problem.

 

[Jaylan]

She just sounds like drama and not too much fun. Id pass. Its much easier dealing with women who things just flow smoothly with.

 

[GotED?]

Hey abe,

Lots of good advice in this thread already and it sounds like you know where you goofed... so let's not blame the woman for the BS on this one

Here's something that I try to remember: never bring up the relationship. Don't talk about whether or not you guys are ready for X, not how you need to get to know each other, not the quality of kiss/hugs/sex, etc. I know you weren't having the "relationship talk" or anything like that, but when you date a woman you almost have to pretend like she's dating you and she doesn't even know it. Like alerting her to the fact that she's dating you would freak her out.

Acknowledging a relationship is like looking a grizzly in the eye. There it was, hanging out, enjoying some picnic baskets or whatever. There you were, enjoying your camping trip. Everything peachy. Then you looked the f*cking bear in the eye!

You knew the bear was there. The bear knew you were there. But by not acknowledging each other you were able to carry on your happy existences.

Now the bear's going to eat you.

This is interesting advice from TheCWord - I haven't really thought of it this way but it is a good thing to examine the beginning of a dating relationship to see how women behave, if it is this way.

I just recently had my time wasted by a HB7 (LOL - some other thread mentioned that HB6-7 can think they are hot stuff like a HB8-9, that is correct; quite laughable!) who 'couldn't get over a guy she dated for 1.5 months' WTF??!! LOL..... I typically attract HB 7-8's but I really liked this woman's personality (back then I suppose LOL not now) so I gave her a chance and she was sweet talking me like no other women have (BIG RED FLAG - REBOUND situation, a woman desperately wants to get laid and get into a short term relationship to get rid of the pain).

At first I thought it was a joke that she's hurting for a guy she knew for 1.5 months - but after 4 dates, I was about to walk on her and NEXT her due to her inconsistencies (emotionally unavailable) though I knew she was hot for me and I could easily bed her but I am looking for a quality LTR and I make the woman wait painfully for physical intimacy (filter out all the bullsh!t so I don't get emotionally entrapped making sure she's who she says she is and it paid off this time).

She ended up hinting dating each other 'Exclusive', and I was going away for 2 weeks on business trip on the other side of the world so I agreed even though my gut feeling was a bit off that she's not going to honor it. After 3 days now being gone on my travels, she was blowing hot the first 24 hours when I left her after we gone 'Exclusive'. Now 72 hours later, her response to me via email and other method of communication has been declining.

I called her up and gave her my piece of mind and called her out on her behavior (I am not sure if she's playing games as I have been selectively distant in keeping in touch with her, giving her time to miss me a bit). She said she had this guy that she previously dated still on her mind and she is still hurting. Also her life was TOO BUSY for a BOYFRIEND. I laughed and told her she was seriously FOOKED UP, why is she wasting time on guys and getting into 'EXCLUSIVE' dating relationships?? I NEXTED her on the phone when she attempted to throw me the 'JUST WANT TO BE FRIENDS' bone (potential FWB or Fookbuddy more correct). I could have kept on working with her but its just too much fooken work for me and I am getting old (she's 33 and I am 41). Women in their early 30's are really messed up with my experiences - I have almost dated only women in LTR who are in their early 30's so I been around the block.

My point in this spew to this thread is - IT IS POSSIBLE WHEN A WOMAN HAS FEAR OF INTIMACY ISSUES, or she is EMOTIONALLY UNAVAILABLE, you may need to downplay your intention just like TheCWord said. However, that is a VERY painful place to be and GETTING FRIENDZONED unless all you are after is a lay.

SOME women are not ready for a relationship - however I tend to be able to sniff those out and avoid them like the plague. I was played well by this HB7, I can't win all the time but thankfully it was just a couple of weeks. I would say she probably was only looking for a secks partner and a rebound guy, but I ain't into that sh!t. But overall, I have not been required to downplay the relationship/dating facade, I make it clear in the beginning it is what it is. If she can't play on my playground, then get the fook off and find an AFC guy to be her emotional tampon.

Another battlefield wound/scar for my DJ plaque of failed mistresses.

Be well.

Exodus