from good to bratty and selfish

[pyros]

You're dating a girl, or maybe she is just a FWB, or she is just a friend that was your FWB before. You always had a 'good' relationship but at some point...she changed, or her attitude towards you changed.
She started to flake on you, which she never did before. She starts acting more bratty and selfish. It seems you're now her second or third option, and not a priority as before. When she gets upset she calls you names, which she never did before...

You argue, get annoyed, and you start to think that you would be better off without her in your life.

This has happened to me twice in the last year. Two FWB with whom I had a good relationship, with or without sex. The first one I've known her for 1.5 years. She was very keen on me, always putting me first, treating me very well, and always trying to have sex with me. But two months ago, she started to behave as I wrote above, and after a few flakes, disrespecting me and acting really bratty I decided to not see her anymore.
The second one was another FWB but I've just known her for four months. We decided to be just friends. It was going ok but...as with the previous girl, I noticed that at some point she started to criticise me (style, physic, whatever really). Then she became really selfish, and it seems she just wanted me to entertain her. Then one day she flaked on me in a very bad way, so I called her out on it, she got mad, she called me names, texted me a dozen of texts complaining, critisicing me etc, so I did not even reply to her, and just cut all contact.

I thought they were 'good' girls, I thought we had a friendship, but...all of a sudden they changed 180 degrees and became evil...so I had to cut them off.
I am still in shock after I saw their true colours. I do not fully understand why they changed so much so fast.

Did this ever happen to you?

 

[Bible_Belt]

It sounds like every relationship I ever had.

 

[Ruleit]

There is no such thing as "friends" with a female. They do not understand the concept of friendship as men do. E.g. One of the fundamental principles of friendship is looking out for a buddy in trouble at your own expense. A girl/woman will NEVER do that, the concept is alien.

A woman will be friends/FWB/in a relationship/married to you only for as long as she can derive some kind of benefit from it. When that benefit dries up, so does her heart and it's "bye-bye" forever.

 

[pyros]

You got downgraded to an outer ring of orbiter. The friction comes because her IL is lower than her time investment in you so she is frustrated.

It tool 3 years of push/pull to get to this stage with one FWB of mine.

I was thinking the same.

With the first girl, I think that she finally understood that I'm not gonna make her my gf ever, so during this 1.5 years, I 'dated' her the first 4 months, and all the remaining time we were either just friends or FWB. She hooked up with other guys, and dated a few, but she wanted to be my gf one way or another. It seems she finally opened her eyes, lost her IL as you say, and thus she started to misbehave, and disrespect me.

With the other girl I do not completely understand it, but I think when she decided that she wanted to be just friends, I agreed cause really, I was not that into her, and I think this is the cause why she lost respect for me. I mean, when she was 'dating' me she had respect for me, treated me well etc, but once we became just friends...after one month or so, she started to misbehave.

For the one that said that a man cannot have female friends...well, I have a pretty good one, but the thing is that she is not sexually interested in me, she does not get anything from me (money, favours, sex), so we basically have a normal friendship like I would with any of my guy friends.
Its rare, but it can happen if as I said, she does not benefit from you in any way, so it is a pure friendship.

With the two girls I wrote about, one wanted to be my gf, that is what she really wanted, and once she understood that it was not gonna happen, she lost all her interest, so it was a fake friendshipt.
With the second chick the same, she wanted to date me in the begining. Then she decided that we were not that compatible, so she suggested to be just friends. But it seems she doesnt fully appreciate me as a friend, she just wants an orbiter for attention, validation, and favours, ie, fake friendship again.

 

[TheGambino]

Yup bro I feel you.

I was friends with this girl for years. She was my oneitis. She loved to hang out with me those days, never flaked and we always had fun we even went to the gym together. Anyway I had several chances to make a move but I never did and she has a bf now, I got my own plates she saw my AFC behavior in the past so shes won't be a potential pl8 ever in the future.

Anyway I improved, went to the gym and she sees photos of me dating girls and girls commenting my pictures on Facebook, had a girlfriend she knew. The more I dated girls and didn't call her to hang out the more she criticed me and starting to be bratty on texts when I asked her how she was doing.

She had me in her power for years she knew that, I even told her I liked her years ago, now I improved, got plates and she sees I totally changed. She even started to criticise my pictures on FB. If I upload a new pic she could send me a text like 'wow you lost too much weight, your neckk omg what happened to you' and its total bullsh1t lmao these girls...

I don't give two sh1ts about her anymore and she knows I dated tons of nice broads the last 2 years and the more I improve and keep no contact the more she acts butthurt even tho shes happily in love with her bf for a couple of years now

1 thing is for sure if she calls me to hang out and we have drinks she will end up in my bed

 

[sambwoy]

There is no such thing as "friends" with a female. They do not understand the concept of friendship as men do. E.g. One of the fundamental principles of friendship is looking out for a buddy in trouble at your own expense. A girl/woman will NEVER do that, the concept is alien.

I know this all too well. This is why I am more comfortable with male company. Its hard to find a female with the logic of a male, because many women derive ego from hurting men. I reckon it goes back to boys and girls (still) segregated in the school years. Their experiences are different, hence lack of empathy.

 

[pyros]

update:

so one of these chicks, the one Ive know for four months, bumped into me today, and told me that she wanted to talk with me to fix this issue (no contact). I said that Im not interested in talking to her anymore and kept walking. She came after me and insisted to what I replied the same...and then.. she yelled at me this:
her: go **** yourself. really, screw you, screw you!

And I kept walking...silly bit-ch, for one second I thought about listening to her but the moment I said that I did not want to talk to her, she started to insult me, see? that's why I dont want to talk to her anymore, because she has lost all the respect for me.

 

[Ruleit]

She cursed you out because you probably blew up her self-entitled "I can get him back whenever I want" fantasy.

 

[pyros]

She cursed you out because you probably blew up her self-entitled "I can get him back whenever I want" fantasy.

agree.

 

[sambwoy]

There is no such thing as "friends" with a female. They do not understand the concept of friendship as men do. E.g. One of the fundamental principles of friendship is looking out for a buddy in trouble at your own expense. A girl/woman will NEVER do that, the concept is alien.

A woman will be friends/FWB/in a relationship/married to you only for as long as she can derive some kind of benefit from it. When that benefit dries up, so does her heart and it's "bye-bye" forever.

This is like the attitude 'hotties' and 'stunners' have that when they don't like a guy's looks they won't even as much as speak to him. Rarely have I come across a guy, irrelevant of looks, with that mindset. It has nothing to do with how the guy carries himself or what he wears either. I know and have looked up people with disabilities and deformities who meet this adversity all the time.
This is problematic and sounds like bad ethics to me: 'I'm not attracted to you so I'm going to get together with my friends/clique and deliberately exclude you socially and professionally'. And yet, contrary to society's demand to revere and respect women, I see this so many times.