"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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From friend to lover

Charm Artist

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I've had this problem for awhile now and i find it pretty hard to turn a friend i've known for about 7 years now into a potential lover. I really don't know why i want to cross the line but for some reason, i just started having feelings for her. And im usually very confident but with this situation... it's iffy. I think what makes it so hard is that we've very touchy feelie with each other but on a comfortable level because we've known each other for so long. Like kisses on the cheek, she sits on my lap all the time, i grab her ass playfully, sleep with her (actually sleep), and when we dance its always some heavy grindin, feelin on her ass and tits. We never went beyond that. So to others it may seem like we're flirtin with each other a lot, but to us it's normal. I know her parents very well, actually i'm really cool with her whole family, and her brother is one of my best friends. What's worst she considers me her best friend and God brother. I think i should drop it, but i never really given up on anything.


Well i'm seeing if any of you DJs have a suggestion or had a situation like this similiar and how you dealt with it. I've talked to her about it before and she said it felt wierd talkin to me about it, so i tried to comfort her and just say it's only talk. I tried again at another time indirectly, casually complimenting like, "if we were together i would never do that to you" or "imagine what we would do to each other cause we're both freaks". She knows my reputation and i messed with a bunch of her friends before. Perhaps she's just scared to cross the line...




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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Jaun_Don

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Originally posted by Charm Artist
I've had this problem for awhile now and i find it pretty hard to turn a friend i've known for about 7 years now into a potential lover. I really don't know why i want to cross the line but for some reason, i just started having feelings for her. And im usually very confident but with this situation... it's iffy. I think what makes it so hard is that we've very touchy feelie with each other but on a comfortable level because we've known each other for so long. Like kisses on the cheek, she sits on my lap all the time, i grab her ass playfully, sleep with her (actually sleep), and when we dance its always some heavy grindin, feelin on her ass and tits. We never went beyond that. So to others it may seem like we're flirtin with each other a lot, but to us it's normal. I know her parents very well, actually i'm really cool with her whole family, and her brother is one of my best friends. What's worst she considers me her best friend and God brother. I think i should drop it, but i never really given up on anything.


Well i'm seeing if any of you DJs have a suggestion or had a situation like this similiar and how you dealt with it. I've talked to her about it before and she said it felt wierd talkin to me about it, so i tried to comfort her and just say it's only talk. I tried again at another time indirectly, casually complimenting like, "if we were together i would never do that to you" or "imagine what we would do to each other cause we're both freaks". She knows my reputation and i messed with a bunch of her friends before. Perhaps she's just scared to cross the line...




Charm Artist
Hmmmmm...friends don't touch each other asses and tits do they?, just be smooth and get drunk together and grab her hand and lead her into your bedroom...it sounds like it is already there but one of you is scared to make the move.
 

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Try it on with her sexually :p. Sounds like it is worth a try and I assume she would like it because she has let your do things before and she trusts you by now.

Only down side is, that if you got with her and then she dumped you. Would be be emotionally fine with going back to being just friends or would you have a problem with it?
 

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I was once in a situation similar to yours, and one night I just kissed her out of the blue.. don't know how well it will work for you but it worked out pretty nicely for myself. Made for a good summer and then I moved away... I'd say give it a shot, sounds like you two are close enough that it might work. Just know there's always the possibility of it back-firing on you..
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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