"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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From friend to **** buddy ~ A work in progress...

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How do girls you are familiar with typically respond when you semi-ignore whilst you're with them?

This situation is with a girl I've known for the past 4 years. She's HB material, and is one of the sadly mistaken ones who thinks she can get any guy she wants.

Anyway we've been friends for a while, and if I'm being completely honest we both get social proof from each other. We hang out at nightclubs together, and I may well end up teaching her to wing cos she can be a laugh like that.

Although she's HB material, for the past few years I've not given her much thought as more than a friend. I've avoided getting close like that for a number of reasons - mainly because I wanted to see if I had the self discipline to.

In recent weeks however, I've given in to the temptation and started flirting with her. This didn't go down too well, but i've not been obvious about anything yet. The reason I've hesitated to go all out with my normal approach is because I've known her for some time.

If I alter my behaviour around her to treat her like all the other girls will this matter? What will happen if I do this?

I want to fu.ck her, but I think I need to reposition myself in her eyes. I know it is possible. How?

If she's round at my place for instance and I ask her to stay over, she has done in the past - in the same bed... However, I once drunkenly made a pass at her in a club, and got shot down. I dont think she forgot about it. I dont have one-itis, as I dont think of her in that way, but I dont want to walk away from the challenge of f-closing her!

Anyone with similar past experience?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Also, if anyone has past experience please share advice.
I am not sure whether to keep this girl as a friend, or turn her into a conquest. She's great social proof cos she's quite HOT, but is not that exciting to be around as friends.

I know this sounds AFC, but I want to test myself and stick to my choice. Game her? Or strictly platonic?

Come on people!
 

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nice post on LJBF. Useful info there.

I think the fundamental unanswered qn is: is it a good idea to accept them as a friend for good,

or better to show em the door if they don wanna ****,

or thirdly to work on yourself, and eventually ur way into their thongs (intentionally or not, as you say you did)....
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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bump, i have a similiar prob. and wondering what has worked well for people. Ganji games is an option that i have read on, but depending on the situation is either not worth it or not an option
 

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please, for the love of god read my post and learn from my past mistakes
 
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