"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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friendzoned or no IL but you end up back at hers, no kino. can u still get laid?

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does anyone have tips i could use on how to get a girl into bed with just talking no kino?

i think i been friendzoned by a girl who i used to date or she has no IL so rejects my kino advances and kiss advances.

we end up going back to hers after i suggest to go there to chill but it's not a come on as in it doesn't mean we'll have sex..

what should i be talking about to get her wet? remember i cant escalate, no kino, only talking. i'm stuck, apart from talking about sex and sexual things.

i think cos im friendzoned despite no logistical issue no roomates it makes no difference. can it be done though? spontaneous lay. how?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Dude, you've been here almost 2 years!!

big weezy said:
does anyone have tips i could use on how to get a girl into bed with just talking no kino?

You think you can have sex with a girl you're not willing to lay your hands on?

i think i been friendzoned by a girl who i used to date or she has no IL so rejects my kino advances and kiss advances.

Friendzone - No sex
No IL - No sex
Rejects kino/kiss advances - No sex (for real this time)

Why are you so interested in a girl who won't even let you touch her?


we end up going back to hers after i suggest to go there to chill but it's not a come on as in it doesn't mean we'll have sex..

What the heck dude? You suggest going over to the girl's house and say it's not a come on? You start this post by asking how you can have sex with a girl who won't let you touch her, but now you're saying that when you asked to "chill" at her house, you weren't driving at something a little more than "chilling"??

what should i be talking about to get her wet? remember i cant escalate, no kino, only talking. i'm stuck, apart from talking about sex and sexual things.

Dude, why? The only reason you're stuck here is because you won't stop feeding this attention *****. She should have been nexted the first time she rejected one of your advances.

How the heck do you think you're somehow going to be able to turn everything around with words? You have limited yourself to no physical contact. I just really can't believe you're serious about this.


i think cos im friendzoned despite no logistical issue no roomates it makes no difference. can it be done though? spontaneous lay. how?
No. You're not going to have sex with this girl unless she's inebriated to the point someone could claim it was date rape.

Sometime broke down long before this... you should have realized there was an issue when she wouldn't let you touch her. Again, how are you going to go from no touching to spontaneous lay? Let me ask you. How?
 

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i think i need to clarify, she rejects my kiss advances, my touch advances etc, when i suggest going back to hers im talking while we're out having a drink at a bar or something, she makes it clear 'no sex' is gona happen.

im just saying is it possible to start it off with words where she can get excited then be a bit more susceptible to touching?

she doesn't get drunk easily at all so having loads of alcohol makes only some difference.
 

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Rubato said:
Dude, you've been here almost 2 years!!



No. You're not going to have sex with this girl unless she's inebriated to the point someone could claim it was date rape.

Sometime broke down long before this... you should have realized there was an issue when she wouldn't let you touch her. Again, how are you going to go from no touching to spontaneous lay? Let me ask you. How?
i should mention we've made out in the past several times and gotten naked and i gave her a massage and she gave me a hand job.

but that was in the past when we were dating, now im friend zoned i think. she rejects my sexual advances now, i know there is a new guy in the picture (but hes not in the country anymore, he came to visit recently for a week.. she told me straight out they saw each other)

it's maybe the reason why she wont let me fool around with her anymore, cos she doesn't want to give herself to someone else while he's still fresh in her mind
 

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So this girl friend zoned you, tells you about her new man, rejects all your physical advances, and you're wondering if words will get her into bed?

I guess you could try "I have a gun."

Other than that, you're walking down the typical stupid big weezy path of pursuing a girl who doesnt want you.
 
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Iceberg said:
So this girl friend zoned you, tells you about her new man, rejects all your physical advances, and you're wondering if words will get her into bed?

I guess you try "I have a gun."

Other than that, you're walking down the typical stupid big weezy path of pursuing a girl who doesnt want you.
even better.... "hey, can you tell me if this rag smells like chloroform?"
 

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If you have been friendzoned you should be taking the exact opposite approach. Instead of chasing her so desperately and clinging to a thread of hope, you need to take yourself far away and move on. Women hate needy guys.
 

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Odds are you probably won't get laid and she's just using you for attention. But there's always that chance that you might be at the right place at the right time with her at the right mood and she gives in. This is where you decide if it's worth your time and effort to find out. If you do do it, do it for fun and for the learning experice if you get rejected again. Don't get attach to a girl like that unless you like to have a life full of drama.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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