"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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friendzoned or no IL but you end up back at hers, no kino. can u still get laid?

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does anyone have tips i could use on how to get a girl into bed with just talking no kino?

i think i been friendzoned by a girl who i used to date or she has no IL so rejects my kino advances and kiss advances.

we end up going back to hers after i suggest to go there to chill but it's not a come on as in it doesn't mean we'll have sex..

what should i be talking about to get her wet? remember i cant escalate, no kino, only talking. i'm stuck, apart from talking about sex and sexual things.

i think cos im friendzoned despite no logistical issue no roomates it makes no difference. can it be done though? spontaneous lay. how?
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Dude, you've been here almost 2 years!!

big weezy said:
does anyone have tips i could use on how to get a girl into bed with just talking no kino?

You think you can have sex with a girl you're not willing to lay your hands on?

i think i been friendzoned by a girl who i used to date or she has no IL so rejects my kino advances and kiss advances.

Friendzone - No sex
No IL - No sex
Rejects kino/kiss advances - No sex (for real this time)

Why are you so interested in a girl who won't even let you touch her?


we end up going back to hers after i suggest to go there to chill but it's not a come on as in it doesn't mean we'll have sex..

What the heck dude? You suggest going over to the girl's house and say it's not a come on? You start this post by asking how you can have sex with a girl who won't let you touch her, but now you're saying that when you asked to "chill" at her house, you weren't driving at something a little more than "chilling"??

what should i be talking about to get her wet? remember i cant escalate, no kino, only talking. i'm stuck, apart from talking about sex and sexual things.

Dude, why? The only reason you're stuck here is because you won't stop feeding this attention *****. She should have been nexted the first time she rejected one of your advances.

How the heck do you think you're somehow going to be able to turn everything around with words? You have limited yourself to no physical contact. I just really can't believe you're serious about this.


i think cos im friendzoned despite no logistical issue no roomates it makes no difference. can it be done though? spontaneous lay. how?
No. You're not going to have sex with this girl unless she's inebriated to the point someone could claim it was date rape.

Sometime broke down long before this... you should have realized there was an issue when she wouldn't let you touch her. Again, how are you going to go from no touching to spontaneous lay? Let me ask you. How?
 

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i think i need to clarify, she rejects my kiss advances, my touch advances etc, when i suggest going back to hers im talking while we're out having a drink at a bar or something, she makes it clear 'no sex' is gona happen.

im just saying is it possible to start it off with words where she can get excited then be a bit more susceptible to touching?

she doesn't get drunk easily at all so having loads of alcohol makes only some difference.
 

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Rubato said:
Dude, you've been here almost 2 years!!



No. You're not going to have sex with this girl unless she's inebriated to the point someone could claim it was date rape.

Sometime broke down long before this... you should have realized there was an issue when she wouldn't let you touch her. Again, how are you going to go from no touching to spontaneous lay? Let me ask you. How?
i should mention we've made out in the past several times and gotten naked and i gave her a massage and she gave me a hand job.

but that was in the past when we were dating, now im friend zoned i think. she rejects my sexual advances now, i know there is a new guy in the picture (but hes not in the country anymore, he came to visit recently for a week.. she told me straight out they saw each other)

it's maybe the reason why she wont let me fool around with her anymore, cos she doesn't want to give herself to someone else while he's still fresh in her mind
 

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So this girl friend zoned you, tells you about her new man, rejects all your physical advances, and you're wondering if words will get her into bed?

I guess you could try "I have a gun."

Other than that, you're walking down the typical stupid big weezy path of pursuing a girl who doesnt want you.
 
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Iceberg said:
So this girl friend zoned you, tells you about her new man, rejects all your physical advances, and you're wondering if words will get her into bed?

I guess you try "I have a gun."

Other than that, you're walking down the typical stupid big weezy path of pursuing a girl who doesnt want you.
even better.... "hey, can you tell me if this rag smells like chloroform?"
 

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If you have been friendzoned you should be taking the exact opposite approach. Instead of chasing her so desperately and clinging to a thread of hope, you need to take yourself far away and move on. Women hate needy guys.
 

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Odds are you probably won't get laid and she's just using you for attention. But there's always that chance that you might be at the right place at the right time with her at the right mood and she gives in. This is where you decide if it's worth your time and effort to find out. If you do do it, do it for fun and for the learning experice if you get rejected again. Don't get attach to a girl like that unless you like to have a life full of drama.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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