"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
1.) Some chicks are physically attracted to you but its a power play
2.) Some dont like a physical feature of you but they love your energy
3.) Some secretly like you but they are in denial. This is often revealed when you bring a girl that you are smashing around. I have had girls that friend zone me start crying when I brought a girl around.
4.) Often times its a race or physical type thing. You will notice that the friend zone girl does not usually date men that look like you. You are not her "type". That does not mean she doesn't think you are objectively attractive though.
I have 1 friend who manages to smash friend zone girls after waiting like 10 yrs ( but its usually just 1 drunken smash). For 99.9% of men its just not worth it and it will lower your self esteem a lot.
Rebuke the Chaos. Just leave.
at most you need to pick her competition for you, so making her see you are dating someone else, who have option, and showing then the moment you find a good girl you are gone beause you will not waste you atencion on her anymore can trigger her wanting you.
Sometimes you tried to get sexual and they just kinda shrugged it off or gave you very little. But yet they keep wanting to hang with you and keep calling. I think they just dont find you that hot, but they like the personality.
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Yes. I've done it.
@samspade has too and already made some good points on this.
The caveat is in each case for me I think there was enough subtle attraction and subconcious possibility of sexual relations that made "escaping the friend-zone" possible for me.
Additionally, most if not all of my female "friends" are attractive. Being very teasing and quick-witted is in my nature, so if I'm vibing with a girl it's because she's receptive to that behaviour. If she already finds me physically attractive, I have a good shot.
Also important, in most cases I'm not pursuing the "friend" because I genuinely have other options, which signals that I am not needy and have options, and could stimulate interest in her... "Why isn't he into me?". Having social proof in my circle works to my advantage as well.
Most guys can't escape the friend-zone probably weren't sexual or teasing her enough in the beginning, if a window has passed in the girl's mind of where you stand, you probably aren't going to change that by suddenly gaming her. Not to mention, a lot of guys fail to escape because they simply are dealing with a girl who either isn't attracted to them, or flat out isn't interested.
In any event, we as men are better off pursuing more interested women than we are trying to obsess how we can escape the friend-zone with any particular one.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
Well if what you are saying is true then I messed up a couple times with some prime tail. The stories are too painful to think about haha.
The main confusion was that I would make a move, they would resist, then I would eventually stop. My pride was like you didnt make the other guys push this hard...why me? Some would only makout then stop. Whatever their reason is just remember they didnt make the guy they REALLY like work hard.
There will be others lol
You can only be in the friend zone if you allow yourself to stay there.
A chick can pull the LJBF on you all she wants. You only get put in the friendzone if you accept it.
Remember guys you can say "that doesn't work for me," and cut ties and go date other women.
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There are two types of Friendzone:
1. You are in the FZ because you haven't made a move and don't know where you stand.
2. You are in the FZ because you made a move and got rejected.
In the first case, you should make a move and find out.
In the second case, walk away.