"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Friendzone: Where's the Exit?

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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ok. can I have some tips on re-initiating it and how to act to create some attraction? (to be used with anyone, not specifically this girl).
 

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well basically do the things youd do on a girl youre just meeting, depends on what you do, its important that you dont assume the role of the friend you had before thats the whole point youre going in to attract, just neg her, c+f, kino etc etc do what is attractive just setup that new boundary between the two of you
 

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part of ganji games is that while you're away from her you need to live the life, work on your body, hobbies, other women, job, confidence, attitude, so that when you come back she'll be meeting a brand new you. where as if you stayed a friend and changed, she wouldn't notice it
 

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Hmm..
What exactly do you do that makes the difference between friendship and relationship?

Heres an example of the ending part of a conversation I just had. Looks sort of like in the middle but I'm probably wrong:

Her: wait i gttg im sorry
Me: yeah?
Her: illl be on later =(
Me: you better be!!!
Her: im sorry
Her: i wiill!
Her: byee
Me: lol dont worry you can make me happy later
Her: lol okay
Her: ttyl
Me: bye


Wow what a bunch of AFC people... I guess.
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Yeah, I would def. isolate her for a little while, and then work on your game a little bit. Then in a few months, start talking with her again and show her that you have changed and are a "changed" person.

Getting out of the friendzone is very, very difficult and prly usually cannot be done--but it is possible. Whatever was workin in the past did not work, because it ended up with you in the friendzone. So I would say isolate her for a little bit, then go back to her.

I was currently in the friendzone, isolated my girl for the whole summer, then went back to her at the start of this year's school year. I have gained ground, but do not know where I stand right now..

Good luck and you can do it. If not, and I know it'll be tough, move on.
 

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What do you think of the conversation (though it doesn't show much)... seems like FZ, but I'm interested in shifting through it because I believe I am above just a normal friend, and I have more ability to move through it.
 

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damn it.. I knew there was something wrong there.

Where does that type of behavior fall into? I don't want to do that ever again.
 

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FVCK... haha I just messed up again.
Heres her PUA side:

I'm not going to explain what happened before...
Her: get to your hw!
Me:but
but
but
lol
Her: noononononononoooo
Me: there are some things better than hw but
Her: doo it
Her: DO IT
Me: those things will come like
Her: or i wont come back
Me: LMAO.. HAHA!!! that is awesome!!
Her: -slits throat due to your lack of hw-
Me: wow no
Her: i guess i wont ttyl then. im bleeding to death
Her: yum
Me: what will happen if I do my homework?
Her: i'll live :)
Me: that all?
Her: maybe maybe not
Me: mhmmm
Her: ttyl [maybe if you do your hw]
Me: I'll be expecting more than a life
Me: bye

This proves I can't handle alot of things and I need more DJ training, because damn she got me there and my responses sucked.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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you're not getting the point bro, you're in the friendzone, and you're showing too much interest in her.

YOU NEED TO LOSE THIS GIRL

either that, or go ask her out to something that is OBVIOUS that you like her, don't tell her, do something!

I don't care how much above a friend you think you are, a friend is a friend, make clear what you want. your friend seems like an intersting girl to be friends with, and that's cool, but if you do not want to be her friend and you want to be more, then stop acting like you're her friend.

either make a move, or get her out of your life.

not to mention your IM conversations make you sound like some freshman in high school that's trying to act cute around the girls
 

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Jolly_Roger said:
It is hardly possible, and certainly not worth it, to pursue a girl who you are in the friendzone with. End of story. When girls put a guy into the friendzone this is how they view them: He is sexless. Neither a guy nor a girl. In my reality, he has no penis. We can cuddle, we can hug, i can kiss him on the cheek but the minute he tries to make a move I will stop him instantly.

These are words you need to here that you won't like:
Nice guys (in the friendzone) are equivalent to Fat, Ugly Chicks. You'll talk with them and be friends because they're nice and cool, but if she tried to kiss you, you would freak out and run away and say "come on, lets just be friends."
Agreed 100%.

I have a lot of guy friends, some of whom I'm really close with, but they have no chance. My guy friends are FRIENDS. I'm friends with them because they're fun to hang out with but I do NOT want to date them. If I like a guy, I'll date him, not friend him. My guy friends are, as Jolly_Roger said, penis-less and sexless.

The ONLY time you can get out of the friendzone is if you and the girl have had attraction/sexual chemistry from the beginning, but even then it can be a rocky road, especially if the girl doesn't want to risk losing your friendship if the relationship doesn't work out.

Stop chasing this girl. It won't work.
 

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if you're friendzoned it's pretty much like you're not datable.

think of it as if you were just another one of her girl friends

or even,

it might be extreme, but think of your guy friends, some are closer than others, but you wouldn't want to bang any of them.

same thing
 

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ROFL It's true some of my guy friends are closer but...
After I get rid of this AFC bytch, how do I attract other girls?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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There is no direct way out of a girl saying she just wants to be friends.

You need to accept that fact that she wants to be your friend because she does not view you sexually. It is NOT that she doesn't like you platonically, and there are cases of it changing but if you change for her you're already a one-step *****.

If she expects you to listen to her whining all the time and then doesn't reciprocate by listening to you (highs or lows) then ditch her, find other people to hang out with and forget it.
 
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