"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Friendzone: Where's the Exit?

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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ok. can I have some tips on re-initiating it and how to act to create some attraction? (to be used with anyone, not specifically this girl).
 

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well basically do the things youd do on a girl youre just meeting, depends on what you do, its important that you dont assume the role of the friend you had before thats the whole point youre going in to attract, just neg her, c+f, kino etc etc do what is attractive just setup that new boundary between the two of you
 

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part of ganji games is that while you're away from her you need to live the life, work on your body, hobbies, other women, job, confidence, attitude, so that when you come back she'll be meeting a brand new you. where as if you stayed a friend and changed, she wouldn't notice it
 

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Hmm..
What exactly do you do that makes the difference between friendship and relationship?

Heres an example of the ending part of a conversation I just had. Looks sort of like in the middle but I'm probably wrong:

Her: wait i gttg im sorry
Me: yeah?
Her: illl be on later =(
Me: you better be!!!
Her: im sorry
Her: i wiill!
Her: byee
Me: lol dont worry you can make me happy later
Her: lol okay
Her: ttyl
Me: bye


Wow what a bunch of AFC people... I guess.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Yeah, I would def. isolate her for a little while, and then work on your game a little bit. Then in a few months, start talking with her again and show her that you have changed and are a "changed" person.

Getting out of the friendzone is very, very difficult and prly usually cannot be done--but it is possible. Whatever was workin in the past did not work, because it ended up with you in the friendzone. So I would say isolate her for a little bit, then go back to her.

I was currently in the friendzone, isolated my girl for the whole summer, then went back to her at the start of this year's school year. I have gained ground, but do not know where I stand right now..

Good luck and you can do it. If not, and I know it'll be tough, move on.
 

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What do you think of the conversation (though it doesn't show much)... seems like FZ, but I'm interested in shifting through it because I believe I am above just a normal friend, and I have more ability to move through it.
 

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damn it.. I knew there was something wrong there.

Where does that type of behavior fall into? I don't want to do that ever again.
 

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FVCK... haha I just messed up again.
Heres her PUA side:

I'm not going to explain what happened before...
Her: get to your hw!
Me:but
but
but
lol
Her: noononononononoooo
Me: there are some things better than hw but
Her: doo it
Her: DO IT
Me: those things will come like
Her: or i wont come back
Me: LMAO.. HAHA!!! that is awesome!!
Her: -slits throat due to your lack of hw-
Me: wow no
Her: i guess i wont ttyl then. im bleeding to death
Her: yum
Me: what will happen if I do my homework?
Her: i'll live :)
Me: that all?
Her: maybe maybe not
Me: mhmmm
Her: ttyl [maybe if you do your hw]
Me: I'll be expecting more than a life
Me: bye

This proves I can't handle alot of things and I need more DJ training, because damn she got me there and my responses sucked.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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you're not getting the point bro, you're in the friendzone, and you're showing too much interest in her.

YOU NEED TO LOSE THIS GIRL

either that, or go ask her out to something that is OBVIOUS that you like her, don't tell her, do something!

I don't care how much above a friend you think you are, a friend is a friend, make clear what you want. your friend seems like an intersting girl to be friends with, and that's cool, but if you do not want to be her friend and you want to be more, then stop acting like you're her friend.

either make a move, or get her out of your life.

not to mention your IM conversations make you sound like some freshman in high school that's trying to act cute around the girls
 

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Jolly_Roger said:
It is hardly possible, and certainly not worth it, to pursue a girl who you are in the friendzone with. End of story. When girls put a guy into the friendzone this is how they view them: He is sexless. Neither a guy nor a girl. In my reality, he has no penis. We can cuddle, we can hug, i can kiss him on the cheek but the minute he tries to make a move I will stop him instantly.

These are words you need to here that you won't like:
Nice guys (in the friendzone) are equivalent to Fat, Ugly Chicks. You'll talk with them and be friends because they're nice and cool, but if she tried to kiss you, you would freak out and run away and say "come on, lets just be friends."
Agreed 100%.

I have a lot of guy friends, some of whom I'm really close with, but they have no chance. My guy friends are FRIENDS. I'm friends with them because they're fun to hang out with but I do NOT want to date them. If I like a guy, I'll date him, not friend him. My guy friends are, as Jolly_Roger said, penis-less and sexless.

The ONLY time you can get out of the friendzone is if you and the girl have had attraction/sexual chemistry from the beginning, but even then it can be a rocky road, especially if the girl doesn't want to risk losing your friendship if the relationship doesn't work out.

Stop chasing this girl. It won't work.
 

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if you're friendzoned it's pretty much like you're not datable.

think of it as if you were just another one of her girl friends

or even,

it might be extreme, but think of your guy friends, some are closer than others, but you wouldn't want to bang any of them.

same thing
 

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ROFL It's true some of my guy friends are closer but...
After I get rid of this AFC bytch, how do I attract other girls?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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There is no direct way out of a girl saying she just wants to be friends.

You need to accept that fact that she wants to be your friend because she does not view you sexually. It is NOT that she doesn't like you platonically, and there are cases of it changing but if you change for her you're already a one-step *****.

If she expects you to listen to her whining all the time and then doesn't reciprocate by listening to you (highs or lows) then ditch her, find other people to hang out with and forget it.
 
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