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Friendzone after making out/fingering..possibility in future?

oldspice891

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So i met this chick in one of my classes, super hot. we were friendly for 2 weeks, then i made a move. we made out like 8 times, i fingered her and sucked bewbs. at one point she said she's still in love with her ex of 5 years (im 22, she's 22, ex is 27). she likes me but still in love with him.

so yeah we're friends, but we're still pretty touchy flirty. any chance of me being able to have sex with her in the future? Some people say maybe since I already hooked up, others say nope I'm doomed this means she doesn't find me attractive.

She at one point told me while we were making out that she wouldn't have sex with me. A **** test that I am sure I failed. We were doing this all behind her guy's back, so she had to call it off and say we're friends because the guilt of cheating was too much for her. I think she was afraid of getting caught.

What do you think I should do? It sucks because when we hang out, we're actually really really good friends, always laughing, touchy flirty etc. Like...I guess she somehow one day all of a sudden lost the sexual attaction, but its not like one of those boring female friendships now. we're still flirty. Donno what to do..

Edit: when we were making out, she said you know I'm not going to have sex with you, to which I said something like that's cool as long as we can fool around. then she asked about how confident I was in the sack, I forget what I said, but it was something like yeah pretty good, once the girl and I are comfortable with eachother it goes really well (something like that, probably not as good as a 'yup'). Anyways, this was AFTER i had fingered her. We hooked up for like a week after before she pulled the LJBF. Is this where i fvkked up? I wasn't convincing enough for her to cheat on her guy with me? LIke if she's going to have sex with somebody, he better rock her world. Or if she likes someone anyway, she will still go for it. Because at that point she was calling me all the time, and telling me how much she liked me.

Man I know I type a lot, but I'm just learning you know?
 
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mahoney

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carry on as you are, don't get too attached, don't act intense or too serious about things, don't worry about what this is or isn't or what to call it

(one question - you say she is doing this behind her guys back - but this isn't the ex she says shes in love with?)

whatever the permutations of this, as long as you are not attached, just do whatever it is you are doing already and don't worry about any of it
 

IamJosan

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Dude if you've gone that far I'm sure you can fvck. Sure, she's told you you're not gonna fvck, but once you two are in the moment and you're sucking her tits and whatever, it's very hard not to have sex. Just go for it.

I'm speaking from experience by the way. Besides, girls always say one thing and do another.
 

Htienvu

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How can you do all that and not Fk already... She may be saying no but it's her action that counts.
 

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mahoney said:
carry on as you are, don't get too attached, don't act intense or too serious about things, don't worry about what this is or isn't or what to call it

(one question - you say she is doing this behind her guys back - but this isn't the ex she says shes in love with?)

whatever the permutations of this, as long as you are not attached, just do whatever it is you are doing already and don't worry about any of it
Yeah I've been pretty nonchalant about this situation. Yeah its behind her ex, but they're still together, but not really? I donno wtf is up with their situation.

Ok sounds good. I've still been flirty and funny. She tells everyone about me, but is referring as her "friend"...ehhh

IamJosan said:
Dude if you've gone that far I'm sure you can fvck. Sure, she's told you you're not gonna fvck, but once you two are in the moment and you're sucking her tits and whatever, it's very hard not to have sex. Just go for it.

I'm speaking from experience by the way. Besides, girls always say one thing and do another.
I hear you man. I thought it was a $hit test and I was sure she was down. But she all of a sudden flipped the script. but thing is it's been about a month since we've done anything. I figure it's long gone, or is one of those things where if we go out to the movies or something one night, I just make it happen again?


Htienvu said:
How can you do all that and not Fk already... She may be saying no but it's her action that counts.
I donno..I think she's one of those chicks that gets attached once she has sex and maybe she wasn't ready to move on from her current dude. That's atleast what she told me and then now I'm the friend and its been a month since any action. I'm going to go with what mahoney says, just not think too much about it and go with the flow. Maybe we might hook up again in the future? I donno., thanks for the info guys
 

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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

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LoneWolf

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done it before. girl told me she just wanted to be friends. hung out a few times, then i made a move and just kissed her randomly as she was walking out my room and we were fuking on my bed five minutes later. so whatever they say doesn't mean sh1t. been proven many times :p
 
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