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[jonwon]

Now this is a post to all DJ's and i mean the ones who are getting results with women and getting this part of there life in better order.

I want to ask a question about something i am witnessing and that is trying to make new friends (i came out of a marriage a while back and always strive to build more mates). (i would describe these guys as typical AFC and i mean borderline text book)

A recent endeviour i was on a break with a few lads, mates of a good guy i know who i class as one of the blokes i would like as a true friend, one who does not judge e.t.c.

anyway all i can describe is it was like feeling like the model women (blowing my own trumpet sorry just trying to rationalize it) who was the rest of the girls where being unneccassery bitc*ie towards.

I cant describe it any other way.

In my persuit to make more friends, i felt i was nothing but genuine towards these guys, so you can imagine i was suprised to find what i would describe as ***** attitude and sh** from one or two.

Setting me up on tests, giving snide remarks, framing me in there frame, just being sly di**s in a round about way, negative but masked in a way to try to seem the way i can only describe as getting validation from trying to make me look bad?

This was on a break, where i was cool relaxed and obvioulsy was on a different lvl then they where in relation to self respect and women approach and feed back.

I witnessed these guys compete for the same girls (not the best quality either, it is also strange how you observe things others miss, sometimes i think its a negative trait as you can read situations far better then the average guy in relation to how women are towards them, ie. playing them off of each other to name one populer theme). where i simply had fun, relaxed and chilled wondering how close these guys where to each other when they can simply try to out play each other always, now this was guys going back a lot of years, in a situation where there was plenty of women but easy targets.

On this break i was not even concerned with se* or women, i wanted to make friends, but even then you cant help or i found you cant help reading signals of attraction, i mean you have a how can i say a higher understanding so you dont feel you have to play these games.

Now and again i found my self set up from my need to build up friends in an innocant manner, so with that my need to help go with the flow was met with some bit** type behavours, which really tested the lvl of high self respect i have for myself. It is no suprise i did not feel the need to meet up with these guys again after the break.

I could post examples, but trust me the go above and behond stuff you would expect in high school against women on a bitc* mission.

I understand from learning this stuff negative friends who feel the need to put you down to make them feel good is bad to keep around, but i am getting the feeling that a high % of guys are like this out there.

So in that the question to DJ's here, do you feel sometimes alienated due to your success from other men around you, also since you adopt a higher state of respect and understanding you cant help being what you are and knowing what you, so does it not frustrate in the sense of trying to build up more friendships that DJ' skills and PU skills can have a negative effect on your own sex, in the form of bit** ars** attitude and AFC flack that is obvioulsy a classic case of guys putting you down to feel good?

Or is it simply just me.

Now dont get me wrong i have some very close mates, sadly there shacked up with girls and not available, the ones that are close are alot like me in respect to life e.t.c in what they want and also follow the path of self improvement.

I apologise for the post but having a recent discussion with the main friend of the group and finding out more bizzare bit** behavoiurs spun behind my back when i moved on from this group of guys, kind-a effected me.

I know its about self improvement and being better its just i am seeing a negative trait to it, i just wanted to know if other guys on the path are noticing similer stuff.

Thanks

 

[Jay Jay]

Sometimes.

Its kinda natural to get jealous when someone has something you want but can't get.

So yeah, I've copped attitude (I've almost been beaten up over it). But I have also been the jealous loser years ago so I try to avoid making guys feel like my best mate (we used to be housemates and he literally had a girl over every night, it really made me jealous... until I learned from him) once made me feel.

You gotta leave your ego at the door. A true playa doesn't give a **** if other guys think he is good with chicks or not. He ****s em coz he enjoys ****ing.

So keep your success on the low down. Check your ego at the door. Don't boast about your achievements. Don't cut your mates or your mates mates grass unless its really worth it. And don't be greedy... there are plenty of fish in the sea and if you are good with your rod you should be happy to let the guys around you catch a few coz you know there area always more.

JJ

 

[jonwon]

Its kinda natural to get jealous when someone has something you want but can't get.

So yeah, I've copped attitude (I've almost been beaten up over it). But I have also been the jealous loser years ago so I try to avoid making guys feel like my best mate (we used to be housemates and he literally had a girl over every night, it really made me jealous... until I learned from him) once made me feel.

You gotta leave your ego at the door. A true playa doesn't give a **** if other guys think he is good with chicks or not. He ****s em coz he enjoys ****ing.

So keep your success on the low down. Check your ego at the door. Don't boast about your achievements. Don't cut your mates or your mates mates grass unless its really worth it. And don't be greedy... there are plenty of fish in the sea and if you are good with your rod you should be happy to let the guys around you catch a few coz you know there area always more.

JJ

well this is just it, i dont worship pu**y, but i cant help to attract it now and again. If anything i tried to encourage these guys to hook up as i wanted them to be successful, a lot of self help books say try to encourage and this is a big part of my frame, one of the reasons it effects me more, as i notice it when a guy is being a disrispectful pri**.

Ofc i boasted but only when questions where presented towards me.

I never joined in in the trying to game the same women tbh i did not want to play the same silly games and witness the women get validation from mates competing, so i did my own thing. It may seem like i was usurping them but i did genuinly feel i was trying to be average and not stepping on people toes in any from, but i aint no typical nice guy either if you get my meaning.

All i am saying is i am noticing this a few times, jealous i can accept but come on, sorry maybe its just me, since when i see a guy do well who i class as a potential mate i have nothing but respect, something i am seeing is not a common theme to a high %.

when i posted about them being typical AFC, you can imagine i am a little dismad at all this playgroud sh** so i am simply reflecting on how i percived them to be, it was not a judgement or a pre-quisit for there friendship as i really dont care for that but i do care about having quality mates around! Shame a good % imo are nothing but kindergarden negative feel good by putting you down type behavoiurs.

A book i read, Magic of thinking big describes what i can only state as a situation that came about on the above, i have witnessed it in the past but not to this extreme, i find it disheartening especcially when i did value some of them prior to the need to be all anal.