Friend's gf broke it off because he won't get better job

[Aristippus]

Mike Ock said: The real issue at play here is to never, EVER get so attached to a woman that you can't bounce back in short order if she packs up and leaves.

*** I definitely agree and would go one step further and say to never get so attached to a woman that you couldn't pack up and leave yourself if she started behaving in an unacceptable manner.

Knight"s Cross said: It's almost pathetic today that so many men have given up their OWN improvement plans to just be providers for her lifestyle.

*** True. Suddenly her wants become all-important to him, but at the expense of his own desires. Relationships should be give and take, and by that I DO NOT mean "he gives and she takes".

tryst asked: So are you guys saying that even if you make good money a woman still won't be satisfied and will think she can get better?


*** I don't think it's quite to that extreme. Sometimes maybe. Other times the woman may stay with you, in fact, you might not even be able to get rid of her, but her lack of satisfaction results in a lot of nagging. Not all women are like this but you do have to weed these types out.


Lorenzo said: I live in SoCal and the surf culture breeds these surf bums that all they care about is the next wave. Zero ambition to go out and make money. They are some of the happiest people you will ever meet. Its not fake, you can feel it being around them. Societal conditioning makes people unhappy.


*** Right. Beach bums who are happy with their lives and only buy things occasionally don't make for good business. It's not just societal conditioning, it's advertising and the media and corporations that like to condition dissatisfaction into the masses so that they can rake in the $$$. They really only care about the bottom line and don't give two $hits about the negative effects of their efforts.

Sodbuster asked: They want looks when they are young, but they want money to raise their own young. CAN"T fault them on it. Would you as a man take a cashier if you date an MD [more money, more intelligent genetic potential] if they looked the same?

*** I would prefer the woman I could enjoy more. Maybe I wouldn't be able to enjoy the same amount of quality time with the M.D. So it's likely I'd enjoy the cashier more than the M.D.

 

[backbreaker]

Zekko and Backbreaker make a lot of sense.


Look, just like we all want someone who is attractive....women want a man who is ambitious.

You don't want a girl who sits on the couch eating twinkies all night, and she doesn't want a guy who just coasts and doesn't want more.

This coin has two sides to it. You want a great girl, you had better bring great value.

But remember, just as she can possibly swing to a higher value man, so to can you swing to a higher value girl.

I think the problem most men have with hypergamy, is the sense of loyalty they develop to a woman, whereas women are a bit more mercenary. She will jump a vine (or appear to at least) much more easily than a man will. Rollo covers this well in his war-bride dynamic.

Don't hate women for being women, be prepared for them and what they are capable of doing.

what gets me is that dudes assume that my wife likes me just beucase i have a little bit of money or better stated that if a guy has money, that's ovbiously the sole reason she likes him and she's a golddigger

that's like saying i have a 12 inch **** and every girl that ever liked me liked me for the sole reason of my subway sammich esque ****. I mean, I"m sure it helps lol, and it's a nice factor and all but there is more to it than that.