I recently started hanging out with a guy that is much better with women than any of my friends....and that isn't sayin much. Whenever he and I go out, we motivate each other to talk to girls and usually do pretty well. I realized that with my other friends, we almost never even attempt to talk to any girls and if I do, they bring down my game. How do you guys handle this situation, as I am sure it's quite common. I don't want to ditch my real friends, but at the same time, if we're going out I want to try and meet women, but can't with them around. Thanks.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Friends bringing you down??
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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”
Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.
Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers. Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.
I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.
I'm in the Mood
Master Don Juan
I thought I was a pvssy, but most of my friends turned out to be even more like pvssies.
You gotta take the helm of the group and make yourself the Alpha Male. Good leadership can do a lot for your group's confidence, but as for your game, your own conciousness should set an example for your friends to follow.
But truthfully, a wingman is way better to game with than a group of your friends. I'd just stick to hangin with your buddies for fun and gaming alone or with somebody good for even more fun.
You gotta take the helm of the group and make yourself the Alpha Male. Good leadership can do a lot for your group's confidence, but as for your game, your own conciousness should set an example for your friends to follow.
But truthfully, a wingman is way better to game with than a group of your friends. I'd just stick to hangin with your buddies for fun and gaming alone or with somebody good for even more fun.
Different friends serve different purposes.
I have gamer friends, I hang with them and game.
I have business associates and we hang and have dinner.
I have old club buddies. We spin records and go to parties.
I have car friends. We work on our rides and hang out.
I don't have any friends to go out with and pick up women. So I do that alone. Lone wolf style.
All of your friends can't be friends. Each serves a purpose in your life. Spend time with all of them. When necessary split your night, I might have an early sushi dinner with my gamers or biz guys and meet my club friends out later and then go hunt alone afterwards. You dig? Good Luck!
I have gamer friends, I hang with them and game.
I have business associates and we hang and have dinner.
I have old club buddies. We spin records and go to parties.
I have car friends. We work on our rides and hang out.
I don't have any friends to go out with and pick up women. So I do that alone. Lone wolf style.
All of your friends can't be friends. Each serves a purpose in your life. Spend time with all of them. When necessary split your night, I might have an early sushi dinner with my gamers or biz guys and meet my club friends out later and then go hunt alone afterwards. You dig? Good Luck!
Ollie
Don Juan
Well you can always be a douche and use your friends that have no social skills to make you look better...I don't really do it on purpose but it works. I have a couple friends that are clueless. One night, a girl told one of them that she liked Jager. So instead of doing what I'd do and saying something like "Me too...you should buy us a shot" or something along those lines, he no sh!t left the bar and bought her an entire bottle of it. I was dumbfounded. Buying a drink would have been bad enough but a bottle? Guys like those make you look like Johnny Depp...
Thanks guys. That's basically what I do Warrior... I have friends in different groups. But I realized that the guys I hang with 99% of the time have no game, zero, and i really don't want to ditch them but I would like to actually meet some girls.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Ollie
Don Juan
Haha so I post this about using them to your advantage then I get burned that same night by a dumbass friend. Working on a bartender since it was slow (not easy for those of you who don't do the bar scene) and was moving along quite nicely. Escalated the conversation to sexual before she's done with the order (relating beef dip to female genitalia...risky maneuver but it worked) and had her trying to prove her value to me by talking about some customer who was a "real cassanova" that liked her and what not but she turned him down. Now I don't ever really compliment, but I told her I liked her toenails and that green was a very good color on her...my friends like "They're not green, they're blue!" like I'm a retard. Pretty much killed where I was going with it and ended up with the two of them discussing my apparent color blindness and him not holding her attention and her walking away. I could have easily recovered but this was towards the end of the night after I had some real sexual chemistry going (I had her talking about her favorite positions, the craziest thing she's done, girl on girl, you name it. And she's not an overly slutty girl it took quite a bit of work and fancy maneuvering on my part...I'm good with reverse psychology) and I didn't feel like back tracking. Guess I need to rethink my previous post.
I totally disagree with this. Never hang out with losers in order to make yourself seem like the Alpha Male. It has the adverse effect. People make quick snap judgement when meeting people. They don't give an indepth review on each person in a group, their qualities, vices and how they compare with eachother. They just do a generalised view. Hang out with a bunch of nerds even though you are smooth, confident and good looking? They will quickly classify you as "one of the nerds". However, hang out with the alpha dogs who pull left right and centre, people will think you are a smooth operator even if you are not the Alpha of the pack.Ollie said:
1..the main problem with hanging out with AFCs friends is that they want you to fail because they want you to be at their inept level with regards to women.
2..they dont believe that improving your game with women can improve.
they are pessimists and expect you (and them) to fail with regards to seducing women.
3..they dont want to learn, they want to criticize whatever game you have.
4...if they are not cool, then women generalize and think you are a loser too. a cool guy is social prove that implyes that you also are a cool guy. when you hang out with a cool guy you also will hook up with somebody cause his coolnes makes you look like a cool guy too.
5..AFC guys dont have the drive to even start a conversation with a woman and that insecurity will radiate to you too.
for the love of god, have two kinds of friends, the AFCs to talk about football and watch sports and the cool guy to hang out and hunt girls.
2..they dont believe that improving your game with women can improve.
they are pessimists and expect you (and them) to fail with regards to seducing women.
3..they dont want to learn, they want to criticize whatever game you have.
4...if they are not cool, then women generalize and think you are a loser too. a cool guy is social prove that implyes that you also are a cool guy. when you hang out with a cool guy you also will hook up with somebody cause his coolnes makes you look like a cool guy too.
5..AFC guys dont have the drive to even start a conversation with a woman and that insecurity will radiate to you too.
for the love of god, have two kinds of friends, the AFCs to talk about football and watch sports and the cool guy to hang out and hunt girls.
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Scars
Master Don Juan
I agree. Just simply don't game with friends that "bring you down". Perhaps you could try introducing them into the world of PU, but at the end of the day it all comes down to how bad they want to improve themselves.Warrior74 said: