“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

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I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Friend-Zoning Her

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I thought I would try something different with a girl I just met, so consider this a live experiment.

We had some work-related interaction, I took her number, and this week we met for a drink and played a little pool last week. When we got our drink I toasted to "new friends" as I always do. As we played pool. I teased her, but avoided kino, just to see how she would respond. She was definitely sending the signals for me to initiate kino, but I ignored them. We both had fun and it went well. At the end I gave her a "freindly" hug. The only reason was I really want to see how she responds to me treating her like a friend.

So far, I have not noticed any extra interest on her part, but it is still early to tell. In any case, if this doesnt work, then its ok because I know she has other friends and actually, she was pretty cool to hang out with.

But she wants to hang out next week, so I will test her IL and escalate if need be. If her IL seems better, then I will keep up the teasing, maybe add a little kino just to make sure I dont get friend-zoned by her...haha.

The main reason for this is that in my experience, slow-cooking leads to better relationships (FWB, Fling, LTR etc.), and better sex. So I am just looking for ways to slow-cook.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Mex said:
We had some work-related interaction, I took her number, and this week we met for a drink and played a little pool last week.
Typo, this was all last week,only had one meeting...
 

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Mex... beware with "experiments"... they find a way of turning around on us. As many who have read my ONEITIS in the journal in the past... I can attest to the fact that these experiments are you charting paths into unknown waters. The problem with unknown waters is that they already know how to sail them... you don't.
 

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Kailex said:
Mex... beware with "experiments"... they find a way of turning around on us. As many who have read my ONEITIS in the journal in the past... I can attest to the fact that these experiments are you charting paths into unknown waters. The problem with unknown waters is that they already know how to sail them... you don't.

You got that exactly right!!!! Those unknown waters have $hit in the water that will destroy your boat!
 

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Experiments are fine as long as the subject of the experiment isn't a high priority target, so to speak. I like to think of my plates as being starters or bench players. You don't take risks with the starters, especially if she's the one at the top of your list; your quarterback. If she's just a backup fullback, you don't really give a fvck if the experiment fails and it's a good learning experience. So stick to tried and true methods for the ones you really want.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Just an update here. I called her a couple of days a go and we are planning to hang out next week. If she doesnt flake, then Ill know she has some interest. From there, I will escalate as usual and she how she responds.

After thinking about it more, and given the responses above, I dont think a flat out "friend zone" would do me any good as we are not in the same social circle so I would have no other opportunities to build attraction. I will update again after the next meet.
 

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Another update. I spoke with her on Monday, and she said she was free tonight (Wednesday). I told her I was not sure if I would finish work in time to hang out but that I would call her and let her know. It turns out I will finish early today, so I just called her and left her a message. Just waiting for the reply, then we'll see what the deal is.
 

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So we hung out last night, had a few drinks, played darts and pool, and had a pretty good time. However, I believe I have been friend-zoned. She was pretty resistant to kino, even though she laughed when I teased her, and even tried to tease me back. Then at the end, she gave me the dreaded lean-over hug...ouch. Anyway, maybe I will just play along the friend thing, and then try to meet her friends. Conclusion: I should have been more sexual from day one.
 

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When a girl accepts to go for drinks with you, its kinda implied that its a date and obviously she likes you. Its also kinda implied that you would at least kiss her by the end of date #1.

Lay off the mental masturbation about 'more sexuality' or 'kino this, kino that'; your problem is you think too much and act too little.

Grow a fvcking pair, grab the girl and kiss her.
 
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