"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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sanyo7878

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Can anyone make any recomendations for any good classic advice theads about how to get out of the friendzone? I searched but there are so many threads about the friendzone it was kinda impossible to go though them all.

I, just like alot of recovering AFCs, have been friendzoned by this chick but I get total mixed signals. I'm too scared to make some kind of bold move because i literally spend all everyday with this girl.

Anybody know of any old threads about this?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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pvf94

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bump, I searched for a few....nothing that great.

Maybe somebody else is better at searching?
 

Cod3r

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This isn't the word of God or anything but...

I was friended by a female I was attracted to, we spent hours together and talked forever and shared everything about each other, it even got sexual as we talked about our sexual experiences and how she liked to be fvcked and everything, but ehh never made a move on her and thats when the sexualness stopped and she didn't wanna talk about it anymore...

The key isn't how to get out the friends zone, its HOW NOT TO ENTER IT

That's the lesson you should learn bro, getting out is mixed, but if she's got her mind figured out about you, its a waste of time to try, its nothing you do, it's up to her and that's basically hit or miss, not worth your time to try really. So look back and analyze your situation with this girl and see where you went wrong, best place to look is starting with the thought, 'how sexual were u with her'


-Cod3r
 

mrRuckus

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Cod3r said:
The key isn't how to get out the friends zone, its HOW NOT TO ENTER IT
Yeah man that's such great advice but a little late.

That's like telling a fat person "hey sorry but you shouldn't have gotten fat in the first place" instead of getting them to eat right and exercise into a state of a calorie deficit.

You can get out of the friend's zone. Just stop acting like her friend. It's probably not worth the effort, though i've gotten out of it through lack of effort and they're attention wh0res and come running back.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Pappadapolis

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I'd agree with everyone else. Next her. She's getting all the boyfriend benefits from you while not giving you what you want. She should be dead to you now.
 

sanyo7878

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BUMP

Thanks for posting guys.

Here is my problem if anyone cares to know. I had a crush on this girl a year or so ago. Tried to ask her out and got shot down. I got over her. Then she comes into my life full force and I spend all day with her and alot of long studying nights too. I have made indirect attempts to ask her out and she's got to know that I like her. The problem is that I've been totally friendzoned by her. She tries to get me to hang out with her friends. She talks to her friends about me. She has referred to me as being like a brother. And my AFC self has fallen in love with this girl. I think I even have a mild case of oneitis. I've had the chance to go out with another girl but didn't pursue her because of the possibility that there could be a chance with my oneitis. Yeah... I know, I'm an idiot. And here I am on sosuave looking for answers, lol. I need to get laid, geez.
 

I love Hyori Lee

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sanyo7878 said:
BUMP

Thanks for posting guys.

Here is my problem if anyone cares to know. I had a crush on this girl a year or so ago. Tried to ask her out and got shot down. I got over her.

It should have ended there.

Then she comes into my life full force and I spend all day with her and alot of long studying nights too. I have made indirect attempts to ask her out and she's got to know that I like her. The problem is that I've been totally friendzoned by her.

Why? Why?

She tries to get me to hang out with her friends.

Wow. That sucks. Any time a girl brings the rest of her friends along, she is purposely trying to avoid a one-on-one interaction with you.

She talks to her friends about me. She has referred to me as being like a brother.

Ouch. That's the knockout punch. The dreaded word of all.

And my AFC self has fallen in love with this girl. I think I even have a mild case of oneitis. I've had the chance to go out with another girl but didn't pursue her because of the possibility that there could be a chance with my oneitis. Yeah... I know, I'm an idiot. And here I am on sosuave looking for answers, lol. I need to get laid, geez.
Move on.
 

sanyo7878

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Thanks hyori lee, everything you said is the truth. I've got to get over this b1tch. She is doing nothing for my life except bringing it down.
 

lYlasTer

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Sup bro,

This is what you have to do.

Don't next her and drop her out of your life. That's what insecure people do. Keep ehr as your friend, but don't be close.

Find other girls.

In the back of all of our minds we keep thinking that if we're friends with them, they'll suddenly wake up and realize what a good guy we are, and then everything's fine. That's not the way the real world works. You gotta move on, and have her realize herself how much she misses you.

Also you guys need to stop with this bull**** about nexting everyone. You get social proof from her, can hook up with friends, possible get laid in future if you keep contact, etc. Good luck
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Kev07

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you need to get it through her head hard that you dont want to be her friend.

i tried to just let myself drift away from my once-crush who ljbfed me, but they just dont go away. they keep clinging and clinging to you. one day i just said **** it i've had it with you and walked away. she got the message finally.
 

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friendzone destroyers..
1.kino
2.sexual chemistry
3.Good alpha projections
4.Relax projections(youre not desperate for sex or for woman)
 

sanyo7878

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Well.... Its over, I finially had to break down and tell the girl that I liked her. It wasn't really lame or AFC it was just time. (BTW, I got LJBF) The other night me and her hungout together after a late night of studying. AFter we studied there was a connnection ( I swear it felt like she was my GF). She even made a comment about "if we were together (as in a relationsihp)"... If i had had a set of balls i would have asked her out right then but i didn't. I waited until the next night. She said she had known for a while that I liked her and she apologized for leading me on. She said she was greedy because she didn't want our close friendship to change because of me liking her as more than a friend. She never told me why she doesn't like me more than a friend. Anyway, the next day I asked her why there was such a connection the few nights before and she made up some BS excuse. anyway, the bottom line is that i'm glad i told her. This will make it easier for me to recover from oneitis.

And i got a # today too, (lame, i know, but i got it off of facebook, it was the only way tho)
 

sanyo7878

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sh1t, i wish i had read mr. fingers post before i confessed to her that i like her. I wish I had of gotten her to express her feelings first.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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